Just my 2 cents. I only own 4 rifles 2 are 30-30 1 in 32win spcl and my rem 30-06 Over the years my 32 Winchester has taken more white tailed deer than all the others put together. On the 50 acrs of ground my family owns there is a lot of black berry bushes inter mixed with oak, ash, walnut, cherry, and maple trees. Its thick thats why the deer love it here. Most shots are under 150 yrds. ( 150 is pushing it ) Just for the fact you cant see any farther than that.I do hunt on the farm next to us for a lot longer shots but I carry the 06 for them.