I just bought one of the from ArmiSport and a new Lyman mini mould. With 60 grains of 2F it shoots 8" groups at 50 yards. With 60 grains and a .680 round ball it shoots a ragged hole at 35 yards. The minie's weigh 738 grains. I would like to deer hunt with it this year. Need better accuracy. thanks, JAP