I am coming into a really nice complete TC in 357 Max. 14" with the flash hider attached making it a16 & 1/8". I' m trading an old model Savage 22 over 410 for it. I know that that is a really good deal, but I guess I have to be honest about it. This gun belonged to my older brother, he died 10 years ago. My youngest brother and I got all his guns. This is one he got. He just called me last night and wanted to get something he could buy ammo for without spending a lot of money. He does not reload. 410 shells are not cheap but he can find them in most stores that sell ammo. I will probably be selling the action as I have two of my own.