Good point, Al. I have a M60 Glenfield that isn't much to look at but will
sure shoot.
Bill
Good point, Al. I have a M60 Glenfield that isn't much to look at but will
sure shoot.
Bill
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
I bought some of the Win 333 at wal mart a while back, the first I had been able to get ahold of there in a long time. I was so happy a score of almost 1000 22. Then I went to shoot some of it, misfire after misfire. Some you could put back in hit again and it go off. Some had 3 dents and wouldn't fire. Eventually it went back to Winchester and they sent me a refund.
Our Beretta Neos U-22 did not like the new Winchester bulk at all. Did ok with some old American Eagle.
IMHO all bulk sucks. **** powder, non-filled rims with primer etc. You get what you pay for.
Federal bulk was sweet plinking ammo at 8-9 bucks a 550 box who cared abut 2-3% misfires then. Remington was junk then with at least 10-20 not firing. But at prices wanted by some, no I will pass.
This was the first affordable .22LR ammo I had seen for sale in my area in two years. I Paid $27.95 for this box which was from Turner's . It had been taken off a guy who had already bought some that day and came back thru and got caught right before I went in the store. The cashier had it and when I bitched that there was none there after the shelves had been stocked an hour earlier he came out with this box.
I thought I got lucky! Instead I got screwed, and that's what this whole thread is about.
I didn't get what I paid for,,, and they won't take it back.
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For years, it's been my understanding that there's different grades of rimfire ammunition.
I've always purchased my ammunition, based upon intended application with a specific firearm.
Failing that, I've acquired different brands with the acceptance of general purpose performance.
Not all rimfire cartridges are junk. If that was the case, there'd be a gluttonous supply.
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I have had nothing but good fortune with 333 or 555 or 500 bulk ammunition. All mine is a few years old. Still have a few thousand rounds thankfully. This will make me think twice about new production bulk rimfire.
Winchester wildcats ( at least 20 yrs old ) would not extract in my 1975 Ruger single six.
15 years ago Winchester Dyna points were top quality matching Federal Gold Medal target in accuracy. They can make great stuff, I am sure the quality control is less through the line the last 3 years.
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Went to the range with one of my friends years ago. I was shooting my Marlin 60 and my friend had his JC Higgins bolt action. This was before I got wise and started reloading my CF guns. I was shooting Federal bulk and he the Winchester.
He was having all kinds of problems feeding the Winchester bulk bullets he bought and I was having no problems with the Federal in the 60. I traded him, suspecting maybe his gun was having problems with that flatter bullet profile.
The Winchesters ran fine in my model 60 but didnt work at all in an old JC Higgins bolt gun and the Federals were fine for him. After we switched, we both shot the rest of the time with no issues. Things have probably changed since then, since this was well before the latest shortage, but after the Clinton Scare.
It seems that some guns may or may not like certain types of ammo and you need to feed them what they like!
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I have a bunch of the rem goldens and federal 550 packs and have had good luck with both in my 2 ruger mark II semi and 617 smith revolver, and bolt rifles.
The last time I used the bulk Golden Bullets, they all worked fine, but the difference in the powder charge between one round to the next was pretty apparent. They all still cycled fine in the slicked up model 60.
It seems that some guns may or may not like certain types of ammo and you need to feed them what they like!-Horseman1
That, my friend, is the secret to .22's! Always has been, probably always will be. My Ruger MKI thinks the old Winchester Wildcat is target ammo. My S&W 617 likes the Remington HV HP ammo.
I think the issue Randy (OP) is addressing is the current state of bulk rimfire ammo. I suspect the manufacturers are addressing the need for more ammo instead of the need for quality ammo. Hopefully that will change before my little stash runs out.
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They're still good to go, at least they were a year or so ago when I managed to pick up a couple bulk packs of 'em.
I was a little disappointed at first since about 20% of them went supersonic in my new 16 inch barrel Savage Mark II bolt action, but they all stayed quiet in the 16 inch 10-22.
They shot dime sized group's at 25 yards through both rifles, so the accuracy is still there although I've never compared them directly with Federal Gold Medal target.
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