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Shoot'em If You Got'em...
great reminder of how we need to ALWAYS practice safe shooting
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I am not crazy my mom had me tested
Theres a fine line between genius and crazy .. I'm that line
and depending on the day I might just step over that line !!!
and definitely "safe loading"
Shoot'em If You Got'em...
I would feel terrible if something like that happened to someone that was shooting my reloads.
Shoot'em If You Got'em...
Thanks for sharing that.
Good reminder of what can go wrong.
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Thanks Bonz. That's the most blown up guns I have ever seen in one viewing. Some are a lot worse than expected. Great reminder to always wear your protective gear! Jay
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There's little doubt in my mind that most if not nearly all kabooms are caused by obstructed bores. As long as the bore is clear even a massive overcharge has somewhere to go and the gun in most cases will not be damaged enough to hurt someone. The key is to recognize when a projectile has not left the bore. Good loading techniques will lessen the chances but we still have to be vigilant.
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Not sure which made my teeth clench more...the pics or the soundtrack!
"HMMMM.........It wasn't spos'ta do THAT!"
Sobering reminder to always put safety first. Thanks for the heads-up!
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My brother was loading his own back in '71. He was not watching for the inevitable case stretch in an '06 Springfield. He was hunting at the time.He blew the gun up. The front lugs sheered right off. He was losing powder specs out of his eyes for the next fifteen years. He was very lucky. He didn't load anymore until about ten years ago. I told him what happened. Neither one of us had a mentor. I read a lot though. I started loading in about '73. Casting about a year later.
My "second home" for many years has either been a local gun shop or a Gun maker's shop so I have seen the results of a ton of catastrophic failures many of which weren't bore obstructions. It's always guess work pretty much after the fact but they have run the gambit of gross over loads to probably SEE. It's 'never' a reload of course or often enough from some person who "knows" reloading manuals are very conservative and can load over max with "no" problems. Some guns held together with no damage to the shooter but many are disastrous with permanent consequences. One of the most impressive ones I've seen was a 243 rifle that bulged the action and really set the lugs back but the shooter wasn't injured. To give you an idea of the pressures involved I kept the case that was still in the gun and I'd show it to people. They would always comment...I never knew Winchester made a rimmed 243....they didn't..... but the brass flowed so much it couldn't tell it from a rimmed case. The neck and shoulder held together and it looked liked a rimmed 243.
A whole lot of different makes, models, types of actions and types of firearms there.
Not just "one of those"(x,y,or z, plastic, etc) guns, so it really can happen to all types! Wow sure wouldn't think so when someone posts a pic of one blow up with the posts by some mall ninja "experts".
Good link.
I have got to find the pics of what Can happen to your hand when it is over the ejection port when unlosding a live round.
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One of those pictures with a Savage rifle the owner left a laser bore sighter in the muzzle and the barrel peeled back like a banana. Another couple looked like Savage 110ML muzzle loaders that can use smokeless powder.
I have a "belted" 30/06 case from a customer's rifle out in the shop. Bolt was locked shut, got it loose and the primer was gone, the case head was expanded from factory .466" to .492". Was loaded by an idiot 16yr old kid with no supervision, no idea what he loaded in it. Was a student of my wife's, she had heard him tell his buddies of loading cases with this or that "to see what happens". Surprisingly the rifle wasn't damaged. No pill for stupidity. GW
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I'm always leery of rapid fire - how can one stop in time if there is a squib load? But I admit, it's fun sometimes to shoot fast. I've often thought that machine gunners must lead a charmed life.
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I have personally witnessed a M1A come apart do to the reloaded mistakenly using pistol ball powder instead of the correct rifle ball powder. It was at a match. We found parts (chunks) 90 yards away.
it still confounds me how people can do such things, dont know what powder? pistol instead of rifle? no manuals?
squibs scare the !!!!! out of me
Wonder how many of us cruise the different web sites we belong to and I for one always see many questions from a new reloader asking for load info. When I started in 1968 I was and am a "reader" I read and bought many reloading manuals. I only had two firearms at the time. One was a 1891 argy mauser and a M1 carbine. They provided me with hours of shooting and reloading fun. But then again over the years I have also seen loading boo boo's from some of the major ammo mfgr's. Primers seated backwards, case with overly large extraction grooves causing extremely hard chambering due to the extractor having to grab the extraction groove, improperly seated bullets crushing part of the case and others. The overly large extraction groove really threw me for a loop until I measured the groove and checked both mil spec and commercial brands and checked them. Frank
squibs scare the !!!!! out of me -9w1911
"Loudest" thing I've ever heard at a PPC match was a squib load (after I replaced a Douglas barrel) on the line with 49 other shooters. Three other shooters heard it as well. A 38 target load fired into a 1" heavy bbl will not blow it up but it will bulge it a bit.
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BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |