Tired of Looking at "maxi won't fit into the barrel" thread that won't move on ... So

[John Boy]

... anyone one besides me using Rooster Jacket lube on their patches?

[powderburnerr]

occasionally

[country gent]

I used the same emmerts Improved that I make my grease cookies out of. Ive seen issues mixing lubes at work and on the farm. So I try not to mix them. I save the left over lube from cutting grease cookies until there is enough to melt into a new sheet, a few of the little pieces goes a long way lubing patches. I have also wet my patches when rolling with a mix of 1 part lee sizing die wax and 3 parts water, this carries the lube into the paper and lubes also. What ever is used can degrade the paper or act as a "glue" sticking the patch to the bullet

[Don McDowell]

jojoba oil

[RMulhern]

This entire forum is deader than a 90 year old's Willy!!

[powderburnerr]

dont talk about yourself like that Rick.

[montana_charlie]

Just for something to talk about, I am trying a new trick ...

I thumb seat groove diameter patched bullets, and that means two things.
- They can move a little in the case mouth.
and
- They are seated pretty deep in the case.

Going back through my notes, I found a load that I tried back in October of 2009 which produced small groups.
It was 80 grains of powder with a veggie wad and a felt wad. I only tried it once, back then, and never found my way back to trying it again.
Since I have a bunch of those felt wads already punched, I thought to give that load another look.

The stack I am using right now places the bullet in 'firm' contact with the lands.
Because the bullet is too hard to 'engrave' easily, this would require an uncomfortable amount of thumb pressure to chamber the cartridge. But, the felt wad acts like a 'spring' ... so the bullet can slip into the case a few thousandths and allow the breechblock to close.

It's easy enough to assemble the loads, and the 'constant spring tension' of the felt wad seems like a method of making a loaded cartridge 'conform to the chamber' in a consistent manner.

I fired one batch of these, and a three hundred yard group was 'not bad'. But, my wiping patches had become too dry and they weren't really getting the job done.
I should have a chance to try again in a few days.

As a side note, there is something my rifle likes about 80 grains of powder.
Back when I was trying grease grooved bullet designs with various charges, an 80 grain load always did pretty well.

CM

Next ...

[Kenny Wasserburger]

Thank God,

I use felt wads, also nowdays, Results were very good at Phoenix, next week is Raton.

KW

[Gunlaker]

My .45-70 also likes 81gr or 82gr of powder. From what I recall that is also about the same powder charge that Brent D. uses in his .45-70.

Chris.

[RMulhern]

dont talk about yourself like that Rick.

[RMulhern]

Just for something to talk about, I am trying a new trick ...

I thumb seat groove diameter patched bullets, and that means two things.
- They can move a little in the case mouth.
and
- They are seated pretty deep in the case.

Going back through my notes, I found a load that I tried back in October of 2009 which produced small groups.
It was 80 grains of powder with a veggie wad and a felt wad. I only tried it once, back then, and never found my way back to trying it again.
Since I have a bunch of those felt wads already punched, I thought to give that load another look.

The stack I am using right now places the bullet in 'firm' contact with the lands.
Because the bullet is too hard to 'engrave' easily, this would require an uncomfortable amount of thumb pressure to chamber the cartridge. But, the felt wad acts like a 'spring' ... so the bullet can slip into the case a few thousandths and allow the breechblock to close.

It's easy enough to assemble the loads, and the 'constant spring tension' of the felt wad seems like a method of making a loaded cartridge 'conform to the chamber' in a consistent manner.

I fired one batch of these, and a three hundred yard group was 'not bad'. But, my wiping patches had become too dry and they weren't really getting the job done.
I should have a chance to try again in a few days.

As a side note, there is something my rifle likes about 80 grains of powder.
Back when I was trying grease grooved bullet designs with various charges, an 80 grain load always did pretty well.

CM

Next ...

there is something my rifle likes about 80 grains of powder.

It likes the PRESSURE that load is delivering! These rifles don't like 'wussy' loads! Got to get the pressure up!!