Dont give up on Grandads rifle though - you can have the barrel relined fairly inexpensively and it will be better than new.
Dont give up on Grandads rifle though - you can have the barrel relined fairly inexpensively and it will be better than new.
First if it's a rimfire what is the bore and groove, will it handle a 224 bullet? Next as has been said 22 rime fire brass is NOT meant for jacketed slugs, who know what pressure you are running until a case gives way. Then you have the rifle, most 22's have no real gas relief so when a case gives way you are going to get a face full of whatever comes back.
IMHO this is NOT a good idea and borders on Darwin Award.
This interests me, but in a sorta "stand back and watch you do it" kind of way. Glad you weren't hurt.
Raisin' Black Angus cows, outta gas, outta money, outta tags, low on boolits, but full 'a hope on the Rocky Mountain Eastern Slope!
Why does a man with a 7mag never panic buy? Because a man with a 7mag has no need to panic!
"If you ain't shootin', you should be reloadin' if you ain't reloadin' you should be movin', if you ain't movin', somebody's gonna come by and cut your head off and put it on a stick!" Words to fight by, from Clint Smith
OK guys, I have approached this before from a different direction sort of.
The first thing I did was find out what the worse case scenario was going
to be so I put Marlin Bolt actin into a vice and attached 20ft string to trigger.
I intentionally plugged the barrel with another bullet about ten inches down
the bore and pulled string. I was using hi velocity LR ammo but nothing
extreme like a stinger etc. All I heard was a loud hiss. WOW. Next
I pulled bullet from two cases and filled case with powder from two bullets
and put bullet into chamber and pushed until stuck into grooves.
Then I pointed gun straight up and pushed case with double load of powder
into chamber and fired with string from vice. The rim of the case blew off
and broke the extractor and blew the magazine out the bottom.
But rifle and bolt held together well as from later inspection after removing
case, all looked good and rifle still shot well.
Now for the fun part. I pulled bullets from stinger cases and did the
same thing with sttinger cases and gunpowder. The case rim did not
blow but wow what a +P+ 22 rimfire power with double powder !
Then I used 40 grai bulllets from Velocitor rounds.... Then I used
60gr Aguilla SSS rounds from their subsonic load on top of the Stinger case
with slightly less powder. WOW again. Shot several and no case rim
problems. BTW, I ordered a new extractor for the bolt .. was just a few bucks
and got a new magazine as well. If you do this, first remove your extractor
and your magazine.
I am pretty positive with the 60gr bullet on top of the stinger case with
extra powder I have shot the most powerful 22LR in the world.
What ever you do like this you should repeat exactly at least ten times
from the distance and safety of a string on the trigger before you aim
this weapon from your shoulder and shoot.
My worst influence in my hell-raisin' years had a saying; "You never know how much is enough until you've had too much."
We owe a great debt of gratitude to that 1% of the population which is willing to risk life and limb to run the edge and let the rest of us know where it is.
Of course, we could always ask the engineers, but where's the fun in that?
Cognitive Dissident
Raisin' Black Angus cows, outta gas, outta money, outta tags, low on boolits, but full 'a hope on the Rocky Mountain Eastern Slope!
Why does a man with a 7mag never panic buy? Because a man with a 7mag has no need to panic!
"If you ain't shootin', you should be reloadin' if you ain't reloadin' you should be movin', if you ain't movin', somebody's gonna come by and cut your head off and put it on a stick!" Words to fight by, from Clint Smith
My Dad always said "if you're going to dance, you got to pay the fiddler"! Took me a few years to figure out what he meant. I have a daughter that thinks he was a real smart man!
Like the others, I do enjoy the conversation, stay safe.
I know this is an old post but this can be an FYI for anyone who stumbles across this thread like I did..
My thoughts on this practice are as follows....
Putting pointed bullets in .22 cases may/does violate the cop killer bullet law as they could be used in a hand gun that holds more then 1 round.. Carter or Clinton era law because someone found that this kind of handgun bullet would penetrate a police issue vest.. That's why the excellent tack driving .22 long rifle cartridges with pointed bullets made in South Africa are illegal to import.. You may also have noticed that no handgun calibers come with pointed bullets such as 9mm luger, .357 magnum and so on..
If you want performance of this level get a bolt action in .222 .218 bee, .223, .22-250 and so on as they are designed for high velocity rounds..
I would love to see 1500 fps 50 grain psp .22 long rifle rounds for the families rim fire bolt gun as it would fill a nice nitch for varmint hunting and plinking where the .223 and 30-30 are way to much power.. A side note is that you could use a crimp die for a .223 case to form the base of the jacketed bullet and crimp the case.. .222 bullets might be less stress on the barrel and rifling as well.. Or a micro lathe and just form the tip of the 40 grain round nose bullets to a point right in the case giving you 36 grain pointed projectiles with about another 100fps in velocity due to the weight loss.. But like I said this is illegal!!!!!!!!!!!
While I appreciate your enthusiasm, that isn't correct. The law deals with "armor piercing" handgun ammo, and defines the ammo based on materials, as apposed to shape.
See FN 5.7 ammo for pointy handgun bullets.
As for the rest of the information in the thread, there are plenty of other options that seem better to me than going through the trouble. One choice would the Aguilla "Interceptor" ammo, intended only for Non semi-autos. It fires a 40 grain bullet at a listed 1470 FPS.
As a poster noted much earlier, "Kids, Don't try this one at home!"
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Collecting .32 molds. Please let me know if you have one you don't need, cause I might "need" it!
Proventec hasn't been around, hope he didn't hurt hisself...nah
I modify some .22 ammo. Boring the center out and filling with primer powder and crushed flint. Made some pretty big sparks, had potential to start a fire for sure. Did some damage.
I had lathed down some .224 fmj rounds from a .22 wmr and stuck them into .22lr cases without very much success. After reading this post I had stopped doing that. I like my rifling!
You can make .22 glulets with varying degrees of success. Wax at close range was OK. The CCI shotshells do work wonders when reloading. To get rid of the crimps
Use either a dremmel bit or a razor blade. You can also take .22 pellets from air guns, ridding the crimp, rolling the pellet a little, and shove it into a primed casing. Those are quite quiet and you can load some powder if you like. I have videos of the explosive rounds showing the success of them. Anyone interested, let me know!
Sorta reminds me of those famous last words............HEY YA'LL WATCH THIS
"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway
I've never had one fail on me. You just have to take the proper precautions of reloading and well.. Dealing with explosive compounds. A .22lr round doesn't have that much space to really pose that much of a hazard. Made around 100 or so with great success. Nothing like seeing a nice spark filled pop upon impact!
I don't know about +p .22 ammo.. Doesn't seem like the brass could withstand that amount of pressure. I like my SU-22 intact
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |