Yes I pan lube 90percent of the time. Here is a link about the Felix lube
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...-Short-Version
It's a sticker in the lube thread the maker is Felix. He explains how he develop it. I been using it for three months now with my cowboy guns over 2000 rounds fired. Between my Ruger 38 revolvers and 1873 lever action rifle. No leading and you see the rifling looking like new. Last year I had a bad leading problem.