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Thread: Dan Theodore .38-70

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    Dan Theodore .38-70

    I have been seeing some rifles for sale chambered in Dan Theodore .38-70. What is this chambering? Is it a variation on one of the old Winchester rounds or something new? Just curious. Thanks.

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    It'll be Dan's version of that reamer. It'll probably feature a short cylindrical section near the case mouth and maybe zero freebore. Dan's stuff seems to work quite well and I haven't gone wrong when following his advice.

    Chris.

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    Why not ask him? He hangs out on the BPCR forum.
    http://www.bpcr.net/index-a.htm

    I bought a reamer from him a while back, good guy to talk with and really seems to like discussing chamber and boolit dimensions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobade View Post
    Why not ask him? He hangs out on the BPCR forum.
    http://www.bpcr.net/index-a.htm
    No longer.
    He has removed all of his posts ... or edited them with gibberish ... on all of the forums I used to see him on.
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    Just curious what it was. Info I have seen on it indicates that chambering has been used to win a number of national matches with BPCR's and I was wondering what it was.

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    http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.49594...08632&pid=15.1


    I'm sure if you took those dimensions, drew up a chamber drawing to match it and the barrel based on some of Dan's other chambers floating around on the internet, you could arrive at a good chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_charlie View Post
    No longer.
    He has removed all of his posts ... or edited them with gibberish ... on all of the forums I used to see him on.
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    That's strange. I wonder what got under his skin? He used to be a wealth of knowledge!

    -Nobade

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    Can anyone tell me what national matches were won with the 38-70 and if they are so good, why are they for sale?

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    Sometimes folks just get tired of doing something and put their stuff up for sale, and go on to other things.
    Long range rules, the rest drool.

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    last year silhouette nationals match shows 2-38/55 and 3-38/50 in iron sight and 1-38/55 plus 5-38/50 in scope class and no more 38cal. Only small cal that I remember doing well was a 35/40 of Steve Baldwins and he always seems to shoot well. Most was 56-45/70 and 28-40/65 in iron sight class.

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    Rick Moritz has been shooting some good scores in sillouette and bptr with a 38-70 some odd off and on for several years.
    Long range rules, the rest drool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobade View Post
    That's strange. I wonder what got under his skin? He used to be a wealth of knowledge!

    -Nobade
    He's WRITING A BOOK....and don't want info splashed all over these forums! Makes sense to me as I'd do the same thing!
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    I think this thread may be a little crossed up. The 38 cal DT was working with was the 38-72 I believe.
    It uses 405 Win brass. The 38-70 is a completely different animal.
    EDG

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    Dan has worked with both the .38-70 and the .38-72.

    Chris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDG View Post
    I think this thread may be a little crossed up. The 38 cal DT was working with was the 38-72 I believe.
    It uses 405 Win brass. The 38-70 is a completely different animal.
    My bad, I was thinking of the 72 and can't read well.

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    I recall, as a kid, an auction in my home town. In one of the closets of the house where the auction was being held, stood a Winchester levergun with a full-length octagon barrel. I was pretty excited about bidding on it when it came up for sale. It looked like an old 30-30, and I needed a deer rifle. When I picked it up to look it over, I noticed the caliber on the barrel. 38-70! What the heck??? I realized that the old general store down the street didn't carry ammo in that caliber--in fact, I'd never heard of it. I never did bother to bid, and later I found out someone bought that old gun for about 20 bucks. Many, many years later, I did a little research and found that Winchester made a few model 86's in that caliber.

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