Over the past couple years I have collected a few boxes... of cast boolits in 45-70 in trades. The rifle has been on the "want to try list" for a long time but my 358win keeps getting all the love. I have spent a bunch of time over at Buds and am leaning toward the H&R short barrel but most of my boolits are 500gr. I like the short barrel for black bear on bait, the blinds can be tight. I really need a scope at this point in my life. Any ideas on any other brands or rifles under $450. Thanks for the input, and yes I used the search function.