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    .45 colt and .454 casull powders

    I am new to reloading the .45 colt and .45 casull. Near as I can tell, the colt is to the casull like the .38 is to a .357, correct?

    Anyway, I can find plenty of lead boolits in .45cal but I am having a hard time finding powders that will work. I found powders with recipes for .45colt but no recipes for the .454. Can I safely load a .454 case with .45 colt powder recipe?

    A better question may be where can I find lead loading info for both?

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    I refer to my Lyman cast boolit handbook almost daily. I would defintely get one as both of those calibers are listed in there with different weights of boolits and a wide selection of powders for both.
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    http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
    Here is load data for both.
    You didn't mention which gun you are loading the 45 Colt for, there is an option for regular pressure loads and then the Ruger level higher pressure loads for the 45 Colt.

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    Hunter:
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    Please get yourself some up to date reloading books. I am assuming, that you do not have any (up to date), as you do not have any reloading data to reference to.
    Do not use loads suggested by other folks, until you have checked the loads out from a reliable manual or on an online manufacturers site.
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    i do not load for the 45 colt but my 454 Encore likes 27.5gr H110
    under a 300gr cast boolit
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    H110 seems to be the bee's knees for the 454 Casull. If you are loading standard pressure 45 Colt, Unique is hard to beat.

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    opps, the .454 is Ruger Super Red Hawk 7 1/2" barrel in stainless and I plan on shooting .45LC loads or light .454, just because they are easier on my arms

    My reloading books are over 10 years old and come from Speer and Nolser, I am looking into newer ones
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    You can get on most manufacturers sites, and get current data.

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    I use Unique 7.5gr-9gr in my 45lc. I like 8.5gr because it a happy medium, and every now and then it puts on a nice fire shot. 9gr is really snappy and has plenty of fire. But I don't run hot loads because I want to keep my brass around for a while. My load is pushing a 250gr RN boolit.
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    after more reading I have another question, are 200 and 230gr lead bullets too light in the .454 case? Will the case have enough powder or will I need a filler or is it too risky?
    Last edited by hunter12; 03-30-2013 at 08:47 PM.

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    I found some excellent loads on the Freedom Arms website, for the .454 Casull, for cast bullets up to 395grains. I like 4227 in my '83.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MT Chambers View Post
    I found some excellent loads on the Freedom Arms website, for the .454 Casull, for cast bullets up to 395grains. I like 4227 in my '83.
    I didn't see anything on their site for cast, only jacketed, what did you click on?

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    for my 45colt i use 231 or unique

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    Ive had excellent results with Tightgroup powder with cast bullets in the 260,275,300gr range loaded in 454 casull brass @ 980 to 1,200 fps range. from several 454 casulls , with a starting charge of 8.0gr of TG powder and carefully working up.
    I have tried the 240 gr FA bullet as well as the hornday 240gr mag xtp and the 260 gr and up bullets were more accurate past at 50 yards & beyound .
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    which cast bullet weights work best (most accurate) in the 7 1/2" .454 casull SRH?

    Once I get that info I can focus on powders

    Thanks for all the help

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    http://www.customsixguns.com/writing...g_the_myth.htm Here is a link to Linebaugh's reccomendations on the 45 colt. This a very good read.

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    http://www.sixguns.com/range/Fattpp.htm Here is some info from JOHN TAFFIN

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    My SRH shoots 270 SAA VERY good with 9 grains of Power Pistol,recoil is non existant.
    As a side note if you shoot a bunch of 45 Colts in it,be sure to clean the chambers good before shooting 454's
    AND,DO NOT try to light load a 454 loading with H110 or 296.

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    for .45colt i like trailboss. gives me nice powder levels in the cases.
    unique is my second go to for it.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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