will any one give up thare pet 223 load
thanks
will any one give up thare pet 223 load
thanks
So the real answer is what do you plan to use it for?
lol i like the small and real fast boolits.I just shoot paper.By the way my gun is a Rem 700 223
25.5gr BLC2 (or the cheaper WC846) pushing a M193 55gr. FMJBT
about 3000 FPS in my CZ527 bolt gun.
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I just walked out to to the garage to check what I've been loading... 24.5 gr of imr4895 and a surplus 55gr FMJBT in LC brass. I've shot it in some commercial Remington .223 brass and its ok in that too.
I've experimented lately with BLC-2 and even 3031. Some like Varget, I've never gotten around to trying it yet.
The load I mentioned above gives 1.5-2" groups at 200yds in my AR with an HBAR 20" heavy barrel and a cheap scope. It also lays the brass right down instead of flinging it 30 feet away.
The bullets I bought in bulk, they shoot pretty good but I do weigh each one and sort them accordingly.
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i just shoot for fun.with this gun im going to try to shot 5 600 or more yards.
Any more good loads
Thanks JonB
i know that i have 4895 anf 3031
I went through just about every applicable powder and tried everything not to use 748....you guessed it. 69gr bthp over 24.5gr of 748 shot the best in my AR. Have been experimenting with the new CFR-223 powder, but haven't been able to get the accuracy with the AR. My bolt actions are not as picky, have a few loads that work good. I will look at the shop when I am there tomorrow.
this is what i picked up at the gun shop the other day. 50 grn Spitzer that is all thay had that was around 50 grn size thay had a bunch of under 40grn and a bunch of over 70grn i think.
Don't forget one of the old timers that shot like a barn on fire. That is 4198
50 grain Sierra Blitz-Kings (BK) is what I used for a few years prairie dog shooting. They have a nice high B.C. which is what you will need to get to 500 yards. They start to float around in the wind just short of 500 yards in general. Extremely frangible so ricochet is very minimized. But don’t expect them to penetrate at all. Good prairie dog bullet but wouldn’t ’use them on a coyote.
Have purchased some of the new Hornady 53 gr V-Max bullets. They are a high BC bullet. Haven’t tried them out yet.
Had good luck with H-Varget powder. However I’m out of that and trying Ramshot and H-Benchmark.
My Lyman #225646 at 2200 fps is good for sub MOA out to 200 yards. Wind will get you at 200 but at 100 yards it’s as much fun as the J bullets and you don’t wear the rifle out.
For target shooting I buy the Sierra 53gr MK’s in the 500 packs. They don’t shoot any better than the BK’s that I can tell but are less expensive. I use the flat base 53gr opposed to the BT 52’s.
Sierra 60 grain HP is supposed to be a very good shooter but I’ve not tried them. Lots of 22 bullets out there.
I light the Varget and Benchmark off with Federal Match primers. Ball powders with a CCI magnum or Rem 7 ˝ BR.
Been shooting the 223 in SSs, Bolt guns and gas guns since '68 (that's on the civilian side as I started with an XM16 in January '65 at Fort Ord with familiarization firing during advanced infantry training).
My favorite varmint loads for 12 & 14" twist bolt guns is 26 gr AA2230 or, preferably 26.5 gr H335 over the Hornady 55 gr SX. In a gas gun with 10 - 12" twists I use the 52 gr Speer HP. Both bullets are super deadly on varmints including coyote's.
In faster twist bolt guns of 9" with longer barrels or in gas guns with 7, 8 or 9" twists I favor the 55 gr Sierra BT over the same load.
For deer or antelope with rifles having 9" twist barrels I use the 64 gr Winchester PP over 26 gr AA2460.
With 69 gr MKs I use 25 gr IMR4895 for match use out of my Colt Match AR with 9" twist or 25.5 Varget but it is about 175 fps slower.
I have also shot a lot of cast bullets in 40+ years out of numerous 223 Remingtons (and 5.56 NATOs). I favor the Lyman 225415 over Unique or 4895 for 1400 - 2200 fps depending on barrel twist. However, my best performing cast bullet so far has been the 225462 (Loverin style) over 4895 in bolt guns of 9, 12 and 14" twists and over RL22 in 7,8 and 9" twist ARs. The particular load I use depends mostly on the barrel twist (you didn't mention what your barrels twist is or I didn't see it). I have the new GB 22 NATO mould (MiHec) but have yet to test it but I have high hopes for it.
Larry Gibson
Larry
I dont know what i have for a twist Is thare a fast way to tell what it is?
cleaning rod and a patch.
make a mark with tape and push the rod in the barell untill the tape goes around once.
measure the distance.
1 turn in x inches is your twist rate.
oh i use aa-2230 also 24.5 grs does quite well with 40-60 gr bullets and doesn't launch brass into the next county.
i like 26gr of CFE 223 under a 55gr bullet
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25 gr H4895 for either 52 gr hollow pt or 60gr sptz is what I shoot.
28.6~7 WW 748 shot very accurate also. 52 gr HP
Rem 700 24" bl
Last edited by o6Patient; 02-03-2013 at 07:24 PM.
Many AR barrels have twist rate stamped just past the front sight. Up there where you can see it with the hand guards on. I think old Colts are stamped under the hand guard.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |