Who can tell me about making a Silver Bullet?

[jlchucker]

Now we are on a roll.

Soak the ironwood in garlic juice, cast with ? % silver boolit compound.

A wooden stake in the heart for some critters, garlic for some and the DEADLY silver projectile.

What a great multi creature load.

This one sounds like the best option over all, Bill. It'll probably work in both rifles and handguns. Might have trouble getting it to feed through autoloaders though.

[NYBushBro]

So, anybody got a load worked up for a 44 cal wooden stake?

Sure... Swedish Mausers use them for target practice all the time (although not 44 caliber)!

[Bigslug]

Q: Why was the Lone Ranger alone?

A: He kept pouring his wife's silver into bullet molds.

[I'll Make Mine]

Now we are on a roll.

Soak the ironwood in garlic juice, cast with ? % silver boolit compound.

A wooden stake in the heart for some critters, garlic for some and the DEADLY silver projectile.

What a great multi creature load.

Now we're getting to what Hellboy loads for The Samaritan (hella big 5-shot revolver) -- silver, garlic, wolfsbane, holy water, "da woiks", as he puts it.

[Super Sneaky Steve]

http://laser-cast.com/AboutLaserCast.html
These guys make a silver bullet. Well kind of...

[Mal Paso]

I wonder how much silver is in laser cast? I know that there is trace silver in lead as it
is mined. I am guessing that they just acknowledge the traces that are there for most or
all lead. Probably in the few parts per million range. Interesting marketing ploy but I
doubt it has any significance in the performance.

Bill

It's Homeopathic. The smaller the concentration, the more powerful the effect.

[MtGun44]

LOL! I like that answer. Actually, as silly as I though homeopathic effects are from
a purely scientific point of view, there have been a few tests done - with the intent to
prove how ridiculous the homeopathic concept was, yet they could not make the
effect go away in a few tests. Weird. Not claiming anything, just reporting an
article I read where a skeptic was left puzzled.

I'm thinking filling a HP with garlic is the best bet for werewolves.

Bill

[I'll Make Mine]

LOL! I like that answer. Actually, as silly as I though homeopathic effects are from
a purely scientific point of view, there have been a few tests done - with the intent to
prove how ridiculous the homeopathic concept was, yet they could not make the
effect go away in a few tests. Weird. Not claiming anything, just reporting an
article I read where a skeptic was left puzzled.

I'm thinking filling a HP with garlic is the best bet for werewolves.

Bill

When you get to a homeopathic x30 (that is, diluted by a factor of 10 to the 30th power) or higher preparation, you reach a point where there probably isn't a single molecule of whatever the "active ingredient" of the concoction might be in any given bottle of the stuff; Avogradro's number, 6.02x10^23, implies that a homeopathic x23 would have only a single molecule in a mole (18 kilograms) of water.

The studies you refer to must have been flawed in a way that allowed placebo effect to interfere; there's simply no other way a preparation that simply contains no active ingredient at all could have an effect.

Now, as for HP filled with garlic for werewolves, you're confusing your fantasy/horror beasties. It's vampires that dislike garlic; for werewolves, you want wolfsbane, also known as monkshood or aconite. It's toxic enough, BTW, that it'll probably increase the effectiveness of those bullets on pretty much any warm blooded (living) creature, but handle with extreme care; you can poison yourself just picking the leaves.

[MtGun44]

The study started from EXACTLY WHAT YOU STATED, that there would mathematically not be a
single atom remaining, yet careful SCIENTIFIC work could not eliminate the effect - and it was
NOT a placebo effect, it was (IIRC) a clear, non-subjective effect.

Personally, I do not have any opinion on homeopathic medicine. Sounds like unscientific
claptrap to me, but I have read of one serious attempt to do a clear scientific test to prove
that it is (clearly) baloney, and it failed. Not selling anything other than we do need to
recognize that there may sometimes be more to what is happening than we understand. NOT
going to use homeopathic medicine any time soon, but do have an open mind. Superconductors
were once known to be entirely impossible, but if you get a MRI you are using practical, real
world superconductors.

No mumbo jumbo, purely a scientific guy, but when a well designed experiment repeatedly
disagress with theory, then one possible cause is a bad experiment. Another is a bad
theory. I'll see if I can find the article.

Bill

[Bullwolf]

OK things have drifted far enough off topic that I feel like I can post this link now.

http://www.coonaninc.com/products.ph...ilver-bullets/



Coonan, you remember them right? The makers of a 38/.357 1911.


Just when you thought you had seen it all, someone else decided to cash in on the latest zombie craze.

Apparently Coonan sells a hollow wooden vampire stake, with a handful of silver bullets inside. They are made supposedly with a 99% pure silver jacket.


Silly? Well perhaps, but maybe it will have some collectable value in a few years though - Who knows?


Looking for a "Stocking Stuffer"? How about a Coonan Silver Bullet.



I saw an auction for one once on Gun Broker, and was a tad surprised. This question tends to pop up every so often here. Apparently even the manufacturer, Coonan in this case found it easier (and probably cheaper too) to go with a silver jacket.


- Bullwolf

[MtGun44]

Jacketed in silver. Does that count as a "silver bullet"?

Can we get an official werewolf umpire to rule on that one?

They could use a touch of flash suppressant in that powder

Bill

[William Yanda]

Nickel cases are "silver" colored. Does "looks like" count?

[williamwaco]

Jacketed in silver. Does that count as a "silver bullet"?

Can we get an official werewolf umpire to rule on that one?

They could use a touch of flash suppressant in that powder

Bill

We need a test!

Where can we get a werewolf hunting lease?

.

[MikeS]

About a year ago or so I bought some lead free bar solder that was mostly tin, but also had silver, copper, and antimony in them. I don't recall the exact percentages, but I think it was like 3% silver or so. They were being sold on ebay, the seller had a bunch of them, as well as some other lead free solder that was 95% tin and 5% antimony, and he was selling them for around $10.00 per 1lb bar, same price for either the 95/5 or the silver solder. I used them to make some Lyman #2 like alloy, and they made nice looking boolits that shot nicely too.

[Mal Paso]

Darn! I was liking the Almost But Not Quote Serious Posts Better.

If you're going to be that way........

Do not shoot solid silver bullets. I'm sure it can be done with sabots or something but without a Lot of Work you could get a pressure spike that would violently disassemble the gun.

This is my first time using the Forum's TEXT interface. So this is what it's like sipping Bits Through a Straw.

[trooperdan]

Here is a link to the mentioned article about Jack Lewis and Dan Cotterman casting silver boolits:

http://www.hurog.com/books/silver/ranger/

At the link is a long and detailed series of articles describing the process they used to acquire silver boolits.

[I'll Make Mine]

Do not shoot solid silver bullets. I'm sure it can be done with sabots or something but without a Lot of Work you could get a pressure spike that would violently disassemble the gun.

If you have a bullet design that takes the hardness into account, you'll be fine. Barnes has been selling solid copper and solid bronze bullets for decades; bronze, at least, is harder than silver (and copper isn't much if any softer). The main thing is to have the main body of the bullet at or just below bore size, with the groove-sized driving bands thin enough to engrave without undue force.

Or just jacket a soft swaged bullet in silver, as Coonan appears to be doing, or cast an ordinary lead boolit with a silver-bearing alloy (use tin/copper/silver solder to sweeten instead of pure tin) and get a boolit that will take jacketed velocity, poured in a conventional mold. Heck, with the price of 3% silver solder, this might even be cost effective for hunting boolits (for real game, never mind the werewolves).

[Mal Paso]

If you have a bullet design that takes the hardness into account, you'll be fine. Barnes has been selling solid copper and solid bronze bullets for decades; bronze, at least, is harder than silver (and copper isn't much if any softer). The main thing is to have the main body of the bullet at or just below bore size, with the groove-sized driving bands thin enough to engrave without undue force.

Or just jacket a soft swaged bullet in silver, as Coonan appears to be doing, or cast an ordinary lead boolit with a silver-bearing alloy (use tin/copper/silver solder to sweeten instead of pure tin) and get a boolit that will take jacketed velocity, poured in a conventional mold. Heck, with the price of 3% silver solder, this might even be cost effective for hunting boolits (for real game, never mind the werewolves).

Exactly, "Lot of Work". It's just that this will pop up in Google and I didn't want people thinking you could just swap bullets.

[Bad Water Bill]

With a cloud of dust and a hardy HI HO SILVER AWAY. someone loaded a SILVER BOOLIT in his 223 with a 1/9 twist to 3400 FPS and there was a cloud of SILVER

[10 Spot Terminator]

Very entertaining posts for sure. After reading all of the posts it occurs to me that many who posted here need to stay well away from Transylvania for sure ! They have a name for guys who want to use garlic or wooden bullets on Werewolves and silver bullets on Vampires. Its called Scooby Snacks ! Somebody didnt stay up late and watch enough "Creature Features" with ol Bob Wilkins when they were growing up ,,, you would be like the fella who would take his trusty old Red Ryder on a Rhino hunt ,,,