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    Gentlemen;

    I have recently been experimenting with a 3X Leupold on my M70 ~ then I remembered the M1903 Springfield I bought when I turned 18..

    Since I have owned it for these 49 years it has seen many changes – one of which was scope mounting. I dug out my box of scopes (there must be thousands of bucks of optics in there) and found some scopes and bases and rings. I spent an afternoon when it was too cold for much else making shims, testing them and fitting them together, then I assembled the pieces and checked to see how it looked.

    During this preparation I also wound up disassembling the old K-10 Weaver I had chosen for the job because it had some kind of contamination on the inside of the objective lens. The scope is old enough that nitrogen-filling was unknown and the work went well. This scope even has the capability to adjust for parallax – so that assembly had to be dealt with with care.

    I loaded 100 rounds of known accurate components and on the next favorable day I headed for the range. I zeroed the scope off the concrete bench and then took the rifle up to the hill-top long range area to see if the outfit would reach out the way I wanted it to.

    Shooting solo was hard since the ground is wet and/or frozen – showing little or no bare eye-ball evidence of bullet strikes as viewed from anything beyond – say – 350 yards. Sure the steel would ring if hit but a miss? Who knows where to correct? I sure needed a spotter.

    I got in the 350 yard Bucket and the 395 yard Diamond OK but wasted 20 rounds just trying to find the 440 yard Bear. In disgust I moved to the 470 Rectangle and Wow! I suddenly noted that at the 470 yard distance I had just enough time to recover from recoil and move the focus of my eye from the cross-hairs to the right side of the field of vision and see the bullet strike in the 10-power magnification of the scope! I could self-spot! Just the additional 30 yards made the difference. My; what a relief.

    I continued to shoot with very satisfactory results, getting elevation numbers for the scope and writing them down for future reference until I ran out of ammunition. It had been a good day even though I ran out before reaching the furthest targets.

    At home I thought about it all and tested the scope to see what I had left after the elevation needed for the 648 yard "Big Chicken" ~ the last target I had fired that day. I estimated that I would have enough travel left in the scope's elevation adjustment to reach the 670 yard Big Round but never for the 834 yard Big Square.

    I thought that over and have changed scopes to a good 6X Burris which I think may have more travel in its adjustment. Next will be to experiment and see if this is so. If it doesn't work out I'll be changing over to scopes that really won't fit the M1903 very well ~ stuff like big 12 and 24X Leopold target scopes is all I have remaining. They will "fit" but look mighty strange on an M1903 that still wears its full military wood.

    The trouble is that I have not used the M1903 for very much for many years. It shoots wonderfully well but I have been using it "as issued" with the issue sights adjusted with the Camp Perry tool for some time. This is lots of fun of course but the short sight-radius combined with the narrow front sight made it tough too attain a good sight picture and the slightest error in holding would toss the miss. It is a world of difference in comparison with a single shot with its 30+ inch sight radius!

    This being the case I did not have any bullets remaining in my inventory suitable for further testing since I fired all I had available that first day. ~ I'll get right on that.

    Good evening,
    Forrest

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    Gentlemen;

    Here is a shot of me with the M1903 + 6x Burris on the Hill-Top long range firing point.

    Good shooting in the snow.
    Forrest




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    Keep up the great work. Is that an older picture, or do you already have snow on the ground?

    Thanks.

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    Junkbug;

    Yes, we already have that much snow.

    Still, it beats shooting in the heat of summer - I really dislike that 90 degree stuff.

    ~ Forrest

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    Think about a shim under the rear scope contact? Might give you more elevation before adjustment run out.

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    FAsmus,

    You sir, are a shootist extraordinaire. My eyes are only 57 years old and I'm lucky to keep a six inch group at 200 yards with the old 03.

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    Thanks to all, a really great thread. I started shooting high power in the 60's with the o3. Still have a garden variety o3a3 I use with cast.

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    "725" ~

    The shim under the rear mounting block was the first thing I made for the scope-mounting procedure.

    This puts a bit of a bind on the scope tube, but when the pressure came on the scope during mounting I just didn't screw down the rings as firmly as I do in a straight-forward scope system.

    As-is the Burris has plenty of travel for me to get on the 834 yard target. That comes to 32 minutes up from the 350 yard zero with the 22 grain load of 4759.

    Good morning,
    Forrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FAsmus View Post
    Gentlemen;

    Here is a shot of me with the M1903 + 6x Burris on the Hill-Top long range firing point.

    Good shooting in the snow.
    Forrest




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    Forrest,
    Thank you for that picture, and thanks for resurrecting this thread! It's great to hear from you and see you (and that beautiful Springfield) shooting!
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    gents,i have enjoyed reading this post. thanks everyone who has had something to say in it.

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    SmokeyWolf:

    Do you take your non-human friend with you to the range? I take my Ginger every time:

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    Here she is at the 470 yard Small Rectangle.

    When we take a brake from shooting I toss the throw-ring for her.

    Good evening,
    Forrest
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    No FAsmus, "The Goofy Wolf" stays home with Mommy. I take the boys to the range with me and although they are very well behaved at the range. It is one of those times when I feel they should have ALL of my attention.

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    The Goofy Wolf. That's the 12 year old shootin' the '03, his favorite. The 11 year old shootin' the OLLLLLLD 1911.

    smokeywolf
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms *shall not be infringed*.

    "The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
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    "While the people have property, arms in their hands, and only a spark of noble spirit, the most corrupt Congress must be mad to form any project of tyranny."
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    Don't let the SPCA find out that gunfire is just as damaging to a dog's hearing as it is to ours (if not more so, since they have more high frequency sensitivity to lose). Next thing you know it'll be illegal to take your dog to the range, or even hunt with 'em...

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    Smokey Wolf;

    The place we shoot is fairly wide-open ~ no benches or anything like that.

    During beaks in the shooting I turn them loose from the car, where their hearing is protected and loosen up my stiffness and get them some fun exercise with the throw-ring.

    There is no traffic at all and the prairie is wide open for them to enjoy. If one of them gets enthusiastic and disappears over the horizon all I have to do is sound the car horn and he comes a-running.

    Good morning,
    Forrest

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    Forrest, you have an enviable situation. Here in SoCal, because there is so much anti-gun sentiment we have a lot fewer places to shoot and also coincidentally a higher crime rate (sarcasm intended). Almost got a chance to relocate to Cheyenne back in 1979. Went up there and spent a week testing for Cheyenne Police Dept.. Passed all their tests, was put on a hire list and the city rescinded their funding for new officers.
    As it is, I'm lucky to be only 40-45 minutes away from the range. Every time I go and take the boys it costs $35.00 in range fees and about $12.00 in gas and wear & tear on the truck. The time with my kids is worth it, but it's still a $50.00 day if you count reloading components.
    We've been making plans and looking forward to vacating this tax and socialist nightmare they call California, but right now my health coverage limits me to using only the Motion Picture Hospital and its local satellite health care centers. It looks like I may be stuck here in libland for at least another 1 1/2 years.

    smokeywolf
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms *shall not be infringed*.

    "The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
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    "While the people have property, arms in their hands, and only a spark of noble spirit, the most corrupt Congress must be mad to form any project of tyranny."
    - Rev. Nicholas Collin, Fayetteville Gazette (N.C.), October 12, 1789

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    SmokeyWolf;

    I have heard similar stories before about Southern California. It is unfortunate that you're kind of trapped there.

    I won't brag about my blessings here - but I do know that I'm a very fortunate fellow.

    Good morning,
    Forrest

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    Great stories. I have an O3 but my shooting it doesn't work well with my physique. Where my thumb crosses the stock is very near my cheek weld. Such that on recoil, I end up with a fat lip. First shot of the day is usually good then I start flinching because my lip is starting to swell. Be happy to hear how to fix this. On the 03 and an Argentine mauser both pop me in the lip when fired.
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    Try laying your thumb forward along the stock, instead of across it by your lip?

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