45 acp 200 gr load

[Mike Hughes]

6.0 of BE will probaly be a bit sporty but still safe to shoot as opposed to take apart. My preference for steel plate shoots is 4.2 with a 185 or 200gr or 4.0 with a 230. Does the job but give fast follow up shots.
Dave

yeah, I would much rather shoot these 50 rounds, instead of taking them apart. My Hi Point carbine is rated for +P loads. I shot some of the 5 gr bullseye loads and they seemed pretty stout. I liked the 5 gr BE but I am going to try some at 4.5. I had some loaded with 6.2 gr of unique and got some pretty good accuracy, but they too seemed a little stout. Gonna back it down to 5.5. The clays that were loaded at 4.0 were a pleasure to shoot, light recoil and good short range accuracy, but not very good past 50 yards. picked up some red dot, I already had some trail boss (didn't even think about trying it). This Mihec brass mold drops the most accurate boolits I have used. He recently had some in stock, I just got mine a few weeks ago. I think it was like $156 shipped. A bit pricey, but worth every penny.

[HiVelocity]

Mike-

I load this same bullet with 4.9 grains of Titegroup. This load produces about 950 fps out of my 5" Taurus, and 920 out of my sub-compact Kimber. Accurate and reliable. If you water quench these, they become frangible should you decide to use it for hunting or (outdoor) protection.

(I have 2 of these [4-cavity] molds if someone wants to trade me out of one; I need Ranch Dogs C452-290-RF mold to feed a vintage Rossi 92 in 45 Colt.)

HV

[DRNurse1]

Mr Hughes:

There is a lot of great information preceding this post. I have only one comment and one suggestion to add.

The comment relates to your intended use for this load. If it is a HP and you desire maximum expansion and weight retention, you are going to need many test loads into your preferred test target medium. I would test untill I am satisfied I have a reliable load and maximum expansion/weight retention at the highest reasonable velocity.

Regarding m suggestion: Consider using a powder that overflows our case with a double charge. Hickock 45 on youtube sggested that formally and I have used such a load successfully since I sarted reloading (of course I did not realize what a good idea this was until the Hickock fellow mentioned it).

Just my $0.20

Have fun reloading and testing YOUR load.

[Mike Hughes]

these boolits are mainly for killing paper. The thing that attracted me to this boolit design, is the light weight with the length of a heavier boolit. My other light boolits for the 45 are so short, they dont seem to stableize as well. One of the projects this weekend will be casting some with plumbers lead and killing a couple of over ripe watermelons (gonna try to put camera close to melon and then play back in slo mo) Having way to much fun. I forgot to mention the loads with 5 gr of titegroup. These were one of the most accurate and and recoil was not bad (was hitting my 3" x 5" spinner target at 75 yards, thumping the steel plate with authority). I wish I didn't have to go to work today, I need to be loading boolits

[Nocturnal Stumblebutt]

my 1911 like 4.6 grs of Bullseye under a 200 grain boolit.

[rexherring]

A friend of mine is a detective and wins most of the law enforcement shooting competitions here in ND. His accuracy load is 5.1 grs of BE behind a 185 SWC in his .45.

[Michael J. Spangler]

i have shot a ton of these with 4.5 to 5 grain of bullseye and they're sweet shooting at that.
i have been trying out some W231 and ran some with 4.5 which were dirty, and had some unburnt powder, so i've been running 5 grains and it's sweet in my 1911 and my 625.

i think i like the BE better than the W231

[acemedic13]

3.5 gr of BE behind a 200 gr all copper bullet is nice to shoot at close range and cycles my sigs and 1911's just peachy. If I have a suppressor screwed onto the end of any of them i bump it up to 4.0. you lose a lot of recoil with that thing on the front and they wanna hang up once in awhile. That lighter load lets them hit hard and still keeps them subsonic. 4.0 of red dot is medicine in my 45's too....I Like em' both a whole lot. factory loads of 231 did'nt want to cycle any of my 45's when a suppressor was on them.It did do pretty okeedokee running them unsupressed. Im sticking with BE and RD for mine

[Reverend Al]

I have done well with 5.5 grains of Win 231 and 200 gn cast. 6 gns is a little stout and not as accurate.

Ditto here ... I've shot a ton of 200 SWC from my Colt Government Model with from 5.5 to 5.8 grains of WW231. Best results in my tightly fitted up Bar Sto match barrel were at about 5.6 grains ...

[DrCaveman]

Mike

I'm no expert, but I believe the behavior & resultant pressure and velocity, and accuracy with the carbine will be much different than with our 1911's. Generally, slower powders will work better with longer barrels is my experience and conclusion from others' testimony. I think unique falls in this category for 45 acp.

Based on everyone's green flag of safety, I think you should shoot them and see how the harmonics work out with your barrel. Maybe less charge is better, but maybe the rifle likes a little bit more than the pistols.

[OregonCaster]

3.7gr clays works great in my .45's for 25yd paper punching with my Lee 200gr SWC.

Couldn't agree more with that recipe my Sig P220 will eat that load all day & all night if I had enough rounds to feed it, it's a winner.

[dnotarianni]

I find that bullseye runs cleaner than Clays and with less smoke
Dave