I, for one, am very happy with half inch groups at 50 yards. I don't shoot benchrest rifles so we are talking light hunting type weapons. Even with relatively low powered scopes, I can see the crosshair waver back and forth across the target at least half an inch at 50 yards. With light rifles, hunting scopes, sandbag rests, 64 year-old heart, muscles, and eyes, a half inch group is a victory at 50 yards, and other than the velocity (which proves the energy factor is high enough to get the job done), none of the other stats, SD or whatever, have any relevance to me. Obviously they do to you and that is your right. We're playing different games.Originally Posted by mike in co