I can't seem to find my load book and need some data for 255 grain gas checked Keith style bullets with a BHN of 22 and using Winchester 296 shot out of a Ruger Super Blackhawk. A beginning and max load would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Matt
I can't seem to find my load book and need some data for 255 grain gas checked Keith style bullets with a BHN of 22 and using Winchester 296 shot out of a Ruger Super Blackhawk. A beginning and max load would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Matt
296 22.5 / 23.5
H110 21.3 / 22.8
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23 grs. of H-110/296 was always the "magic" load for me.
You cannot discover new oceans unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore
Does anybody have any favorite loads using W-296 with a 220 grain cast bullet? I am leaning to a range of 15.5 to 17.3, but I would like to get some input from anyone who has been here before. Thanks.
44man,
THANK YOU
I have been looking for a starting load and planned on working it up, but that is apparently not where I should be looking. Thanks again for keeping me from paying a stoopid tax.
Curt
I been running about 20.0 gr. of 2400 in my .44 Magnums with a 250-255 gaschecked bullet (19.4-23.4 as per my book). I personally don't use W296/H110 mainly because of it's narrow charge tolerance and problems with low charges. I use the old standbys; Unique, Bluedot, 2400, AA9, and WC820.
My Anchor is holding fast!
AA#9 and WC820 have those same problems.
You cannot discover new oceans unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore
You might want to try a slightly faster powder like 2400 with the lighter bullets. H110/W296 are outstanding with heavy for caliber bullets in magnum revolvers, but those powders really seem to do their best with a heavy well crimped bullet to get the powder going before the bullet starts moving.
In that range of bullet weight in the 44 Magnum round in a sixgun, I like
1. 10/Unique
2. 21/2400
I am not fond of 296/H110. Can be hard to light off and can be a real problem downloading the round with this powder. I can see no reason to use it when 2400 is available and doesn't present the potential issues.
Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.
Also try about 7.5 grains of Red Dot.
Max is about 8.5, but you'll want to switch to a slower powder (Unique) before you get to the top of Red Dot.
My apologies to Matt N, unintentional post hijacking. I hope that you are getting your question answered. I was unaware of W-296 having such a narrow range. I had just started working with it and working up some loads in .357 mag and it was doing a fantastic job for me at 13.5 grains under a 150 grain cast swc. I was hoping for as good a result in the 44 mag, but you guys have given me some good starting points with 2400, Unique and Red Dot. The W-296 will get put to other good uses.
Thanks again guys,
Curt
You should have 3 or 4 load books, actually, so you can cross reference. The best reference
there is for data on H110/W296 is always Hodgdon's online data.
A small point - if the boolit has a gas check it is not a Keith. Probably a Thompson design.
Elmer was dead set against GCs.
Bill
Last edited by MtGun44; 05-15-2012 at 08:57 PM.
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
+1 for Hodgdon's on-line data.
http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
Tell it the load type and cartridge and click get data. Then you can narrow it down.
Most, if not all, of the powder manufacturers have load data on their websites.
every one of my manuals has load data in it.
the last time i bought h-110 there was data right on front of the bottle.
don't they do that anymore?
I have used AA9 in both the .357 and 44 Magnum rounds with very good results. I have noticed that that powder goes along with good velocity and reasonable pressure until you hit a certain point and then the pressure heads for the sky. The charge weight difference between no pressure problems and pressure problems is smaller than I like. I like more warning bells and signs. It is very good powder, but not anything you want to move toward the red line.
In the end, I went back to 2400 because it is more friendly and forgiving.
Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.
I use two powders for my pistols(9mm,38 , 357 mag ,and 44mag) I don't use mag primers and I have had good secess with HP 38 and 2400
Using a Lee 255 SWC in a Ruger Blackhawk...
8.0 red Dot 1,000 FPS MV
8.0 W-231 1,050 FPS MV
11.0 Unique 1,200 FPS MV
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |