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    Who can make a mold for my 405 WCF

    Since Mountainmolds is out of business for the time, were can I order a custom mold for my 405 WCF?
    I need a mold that drop a bullet with a minimum size of .414, ( the barrel slug .413).

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    Do you think that I can use this mold and size the bullets down to .414, or is that to much?
    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=282505

    That mold cost 59.99 USD ( that is around 440 SEK )
    If I buy that mold here in Sweden from MidwaySweden I have to pay 966 SEK, ( 132.50 USD).

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    405, sir;

    Go to

    www.neihandtools.com

    and select their catalog, then go to page 9 and you should find something there that will work.

    I recently bought a 2-cavity aluminum mould from them, and it is superb. Cost was about $80 delivered,....and it was delivered in EIGHT DAYS from the day I ordered it. All their moulds are special order, meaning they keep none in stock.

    I am very impressed.

    Be aware that the stated diameter is VERY CLOSE to what the final result will be, and in my new mould it is dead-on. (The number is .421-390GC, and by gum, .421" is exactly what it casts.)

    The cost is reasonable for the service and quality provided, I think.

    I happen to use that RCBS .416-350 mould for my Rigby, and it casts right at .416" in my wheelweight alloy. (My .417" sizing die only lubes it...no sizing takes place at all.) I'm sure you could size it to .414 with no harm whatever. I have used a Lee .430" bullet sized to .424" without harming it and with good accuracy in my .404 Jeffery, but that job is over now that I have the NEI .421 mould.
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    So far I've bought mine from Bullshop. He's got Veral's 350gr mold that I can't afford, so I buy the few that I'm shooting out of that cannon. Gonna take it after boar in the spring if the Combination gun isn't fixed by then. If so, it'll be my backup.
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    This page may be easier to use.
    http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/index.html
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    405, I do exactly what you inquired about with outstandinding results. That is size down the RCBS .417 " 350 gr. FNGC (365 w/ WW alloy) to .414 " w/ a polished out lyman .410 sizer die in my RCBS Lub-a-matic II. Using 60.0 grs. of surplus H335, in Hornady brass, sparked w/ a WLRP, I'm getting close to 2300 fps out of my Ruger #1, with 3 shot groups at 100 yds running about 1.5 ". It's a thumper !!!!`

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    405...
    What type of .405 rifle do you have?...Is it a original Winchester 1895,or one of the newer ones that came out in the last few years....I'am just curious as I am wondering what the groove dia. of the newer ones are....thanks
    Looks like Midway Sweden is bending you over a stump....Can be the same way here in Canada at times also....depending on the item....

    cast-n-blast........that is quite a load!...have you ever connected that load to any meat?
    Last edited by Nrut; 11-05-2006 at 01:02 PM.

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    A coat of Drop-Out or other spray graphite will reduce the size the bullet drops from the mould by up to .002, and I'd only size to .415 for a .413 barrel anyway. That would leave a minimal amount of sizing to be done.
    Sometimes you gotta wonder if democracy is such a good idea.

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    Add my vote for the RCBS 416/350. I have several custom molds but in my rifle the RCBS is tops in accuracy. The groove slugged at .4125" and I size them to .414". I have not measured the bore but the RCBS with acww cast with RCBS pot set at 700 degreas F and working a quick enough rythem to be frosted has the nose riding snuggly on the lands for a most perfect fit in my rifle. Hurts me to say it and I may even loose some sales but at least in my rifle with .4125" groove none of my custom molds can beat the RCBS.
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    Thank you all for the answers!
    I think that I will buy that 350 gr RCBS mold.
    My rifle is a old original Winchester. ( 419161B )
    I have some picts, but I dont know how to post.

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    I forgot to ask.
    Earlier this year I talked to a man here at the forum, who make sizer tools.
    But my computer got crazy, and when I got it back from the service, all my adresses was gone, so I like to know who it was, so I can order a .414 or a .415 sizer for my Winnie!
    I allso need a new .4325 sizer, becouse a friend wants to buy mine.

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    .405...Buckshot is your man for the sizers....He did some push thru and luberasizer dies for me...top rate!

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    I thought Buckshot had retired from machine work and gone into remodeling.
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    Stillwell Tool and Die does a nice job of opening up a sizer die. Use a Lyman die to start with, there's more holes for the lube to go through.
    Watch out for Lyman 40 caliber gas checks, they are pretty worthless. I use Hornady 416 gas checks, annealed to dead soft.
    I had Mountain Molds make a 350 grain gas checked bullet and found a 300 grain NEI on Ebay, both are accurate.
    I'm shooting one of the new Winchester 95s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wills View Post
    I thought Buckshot had retired from machine work and gone into remodeling.
    Semi-retirement wills....wait time is longer if I read his annoucement correctly....

    arkpete....what is the groove dia. on your 95/.405 if you don't mind....I maybe loading for one next summer and would like to get my ducks lined up before I go at it....thanks
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    Nrut, unfortunately, I've yet to connect with anything but paper with that load and rifle. I, like other rifle loonies, don't have enough hunting days to take all of my rifles for a walk in the woods. As a matter of fact, the toughest decision during hunting season is which rifle to take along. But what a problem to have.

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    “Retired” was the wrong word to use, I should have said he has taken a sabbatical.

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    TY all for the answers!
    I will write to mr Buckshot.
    Arkypete! You send me some of your bullets a year ago, and I really liked both the Nei and the MM bullet, but they were sized .412, I think, and my old Winnie needs bigger stuff.
    I will order that RCBS mold and I will allso contact mr Buckshot for the sizer.
    I usually use my 444 for all big game hunting, but next year I will use my 405.

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    Ny newer 1895 measures .414 with cerrosafe. I took one of NEI's #255A and had Joel take off a lube groove and bump it from .411 to .415. The mold sort of came out as I ordered- .413/.414. Haven't shot it yet. He also sent me a single cavity mold instead of a double cavity that I requested. Oh well. As soon as my .415 sizer comes in from buffalo arms I am going to put a few downrange. Got a bunch cast up with 50%WW/50%PB. The gun hasn't been shot yet but I am betting/hoping H-322 shoots goot as I have a fair supply of it.

    I have tried my RCBS .416 mold for it. I may just go ahead and do it as I also have some cast for it.

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    NEI has one specifically for the .405 on the 2002 page of their catalog. It's number is 226A and is a .412" 300 grain GC flat point design. It's not on the page with the other .41s so it may be hard to find.

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