Waco very true about "one mans trash...." after I asked about craziness, I recalled one night my wife and I took the kids out for dinner. As I was stopped at a stop sign and was looking for crossing traffic, I thought I saw a few wheel weights on the ground in the sand, Sure enough while running errands the next day, with out the rest of the fun bunch, I intentiionally went back there and sure enough found a handfull of "another man's trash" - A few other friends, just can not get over the fact or understand that I cast my own boolits. Sometimes I have to put in perspective for them - Hey I make a product that is no longer or not comercially available - If you could remake parts for you first year Corvette wouldn't you?