Attention! MiHec .45 200g Cramer HP 4 cavity mold

[MiHec]

UPDATE:

Gents -
Rumor has it that the Mihec 45 200HP, is a clone of the Lyman 452374 - but w/ a hollow point.

Question is, if it is a clone, how close is it? I found the following on Midway:

Lyman #452374 Mould
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=204749

Lyman #374 Punch
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=307803

Looks like the 374 punch should be close. Any thoughts?

Not a copy or clone

It is based on HG#68 base and lube grove other thinks are my "work"

[gcf]

Not a copy or clone

It is based on HG#68 base and lube grove other thinks are my "work"

MiHec -
Thanks for clearing that up. Can you suggest an RCBS or Lyman top punch that will work correctly w/ this bullet?

Thanks in advance - Gary

[MiHec]

MiHec -
Thanks for clearing that up. Can you suggest an RCBS or Lyman top punch that will work correctly w/ this bullet?

Thanks in advance - Gary

Any swc type top punch (or flat) will do.

Of course bullet must fit inn

[Dale53]

I lubricate bullets nose first with a Star lube/sizer and use a "universal" flat punch.

However, for any bullet that doesn't have a fitting nose punch, you can obtain a large punch and grease the bullet (or use some time of mould release after filling the hollow point on a sample bullet with heavy grease to keep the epoxy filler from entering it) then use epoxy in the cavity of the nose punch. Lower the punch to center the bullet (just have the bullet enter the die a third of the way) and hold it until the five minute epoxy sets. That will give you a perfect fit that shouldn't mark the bullets.

Of course, any of us who buy directly from Mihec (whether direct or from the Group Buys) have the benefit of the correct top punch being shipped with the moulds.

FWIW
Dale53

[Triggerhappy]

Dale, that's an excellent idea with the epoxy to custom fit a punch. I just moved to the Star sizers and find it's much easier than the Lyman style.

[Dale53]

Sizing nose first , whether you use the Lee "push through" die after pan lubing or in the Star lube/sizer is a superior way to size a bullet. The bullets are self centering and you get no off center, unbalanced sizing which CAN happen with the Lyman or RCBS sizers. Understand, I have both the RCBS and Lyman sizers in addition to my Star and they can do good work, also - it just takes more attention to detail and they are considerably slower than the Star.

Star's were often furnished with fitted nose punches just like the others and people were expected to size base first. At some point in time, someone decided to try nose first sizing using a flat punch (allowing the bullets to self-center) and the rest is history.

Dale53

[DukeInFlorida]

Wait.... Doesn't Miha still supply a Top Punch with the molds????

I've become accustomed to receiving them.

[Dale53]

Yes Mihec still supplies them (see Post #404. The original question is someone who was given some unsized samples from a Mihec mould. He doesn't have the top punch.

Dale53

[theTastyCat]

Hi all - as I posted before I ordered a .452 for my two Springfield 1911s and this will be my first foray into the wonderful world of boolits. Unfortunately, I have no experience with a bullet sizer and don't understand how it interacts with the mold and top punch enough to know what to get for compatibility. I've seen RCBS, Lyman, and Star mentioned - is there one you all lean toward?

Many thanks.

[Triggerhappy]

TastyCat,

With these bullets you'll have to at least lubricate them one way or another. If you want uniformity you may want to size the bullets to the correct size for your gun barrel.

May ways to lube the bullets either with a lubrisizer of some sort, Lyman, RCBS, Saeco, Lee push through and Star are a few options. All depends on how much you want to spend and your preferences. Go do some browsing in the Casting Equipment sections to read about the different options.

Lubrication can be applied during the sizing or they can be tumble lubed or pan lubed after sizing, or you can shoot as cast if that works for your guns.

There are simply so many variables involved with lubricating and sizing you should really do some research, then ask the questions that occur to you. Everyone has an opinion and knows what works for them. You'll have to explore it a little, enjoy the process. There's a LOT of great info here.

I'm happy to discuss the topics at length with you when you're ready.

Cheers,

TH

[theTastyCat]

Many thanks, Trigger - obviously I have more research to do before I decide! Thankfully this site is a wealth of great info. Looking forward to the mold!

[Dale53]

theTastyCat;
If money is not a problem, then for pistol bullets, the STAR has it all over any other method. You can lube/size bullets MUCH faster than RCBS or Lyman machines. Further, bevel base bullets can be a pain with the RCBS or Lyman tools and no problem whatsoever with the Star.

If money is REAL tight, then pan lubing THEN using a Lee Push-Through die is a viable method. If you use several 9" cake pans, production is much faster than you would think and the final product is equal to anything the faster machines can do. I have Star, Lyman, and RCBS lube/sizers and have pan lubed thousands of bullets, so have some experience with what I am talking about.

Keep in mind that a Star press will last you a couple of lifetimes (I've had mine over forty years and processed hundreds of thousands of bullets). If you think long term, it's a pretty easy conclusion.

Dale53

[morme@gte.net]

Any chance I can be added to the list? I just discovered these molds and would rather have one of these than a Lyman or Lee

thanks

morme at gte dot net



matthew

Ok guys, I'm adding this to the active buy section as we already have a list of buyers started and Miha has us on his project list.

This will be a 4 cavity brass .45 HP mold at 200g with both round and penta-pins. This duplicates the early .45 2 cavity molds that Miha started with. This bullet feeds really well in everything, even XD's. It's proven to be very accurate as a .45 ACP and the mold casts well.

Please add your email address to the list, broken up so it can't be searched for on the site. Miha will give us a price when he gets it worked out, and a production schedule when he gets close. I'll try to find a couple of pics of this bullet to post soon.

TH

The list starts here!

brian at macgurus dot com (.454" HP & SOLID) (Triggerhappy) 2 molds
happy at joyfulmail dot net (happy7) 1 mold
101voodoo at sbcglobal dot net 1 mold (SOLID)
Dutch4122 at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.454" SOLID)
castboolits at lockport dot net 2 molds (.452 & .454" HP)
gmsharps gmsharps at cs dot com 1 mold (.454 cramer)
exit13fiveataoldotcom 2 molds (.452" SOLID & HP) "chprplt"
phl3494 at blackfoot dot net (Walt-MT) 1 mould
Wayne Smith wlspsyd at aol dot com 1 mold (.454")
fcgarza 0640 AT hotmail DOT com 2 molds
rickunion40 at hotmail dot com 1 mold (.454" HP) "Firebricker"
fivegunner at sbcglobal.net 1 mold (.452" HP) "fivegunner"
Rick at lasc dot us 1 mold (.454" HP) "cbrick"
pkrysztofiak at gmail dot com 1 mold (.454" HP) "Paulinski"
alexdoug (at) sbcglobal (dot) net 1 mold (.454 solid) "Alex"
1practical [dot] man [at] gmail.com 1 mold (.452" SOLID) "practical_man"
WotsamtrU at aol dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "Wots"
cbunt1 at yahoo cot com 1 mold (.452) "cbunt1"
acruzen at pepb dot net 1 mold (.452 HP) "1911sw45"
kenneth dot ferry at gmail dot com 1 mold (.454 SOLID) "Calehedron"
kenneth dot ferry at gmail dot com 1 mold (.454 HP) "Calehedron"
hatch646 at aol.com 1 mold(.452 HP) "HATCH"
stooz at unitz dot ca 1 mold "slug"
kmack747 at gmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "357_Voodoo"
roctober5th at gmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "captaint"
bron_yr_aur (at) comcast (dot) net 1 mold (.452" HP) "That'll_Do"
Sdolinko at westernu dot edu 1 mold (.452" HP) "Dr._Moo"
drobberson (at) gmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "thegreatdane"
cylserv(at)live(dot)com 1 mold (.452" HP) "LowPE"
anthonybennett at comcast _ net 1 mold (.452" HP) "AnthonyB"
fugowii at gmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "Fugowii"
jhgd at bex dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "MajorDude"
ar shutr 22 at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "xringshutr"
barclaypainter (at) shaw (dot) ca 1 mold (.452" HP) "blaser.306"
e_mann_1 at hotmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "mannyCA"
walterlaich at comcast dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "Walter Laich"
boomercowboy at gmail (dot) com 1 mold (.452" HP) "badluther"
varblemdm at aol dot com 1 mold (.454" HP) "kahrman"
dbeaver at geetel dot net 1 mold (.452" SOLID) "c3d4b2"
hector at chameleonservices dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "pancho"
werepyr at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "werepyp"
R GIBSON 38 @ HOT MAIL . COM 1 mold (.452" HP) "RANGER RICK"
jteljet @ new. rr. com 1 mold (.452" HP) "snuffy"
snugglebeargus at aol.com 1 mold (.454" HP) "KennethF"
addiel at midmaine dot com 1 mold (.452" HP)
rogsir at gmail.com 1 mold (.452" HP) "rogsir"
terraformer AT planetsumisu DOT com 1 mold (.452" HP) "terraformer"
sleeper1428 at charter dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "sleeper1428"
turbojailer at g mail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "Jailer"
tcart at hotmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "tcart"
fishhawk21 at hotmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "farky"
csa454me at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "Ridgerunner"
showard at newsguy dot com 2 molds (.454" SOLID & .454" HP) "CSH"
OGorman . ab at gmail.com 1 mold (.452" HP) "bogorman"
maszbc at mail dot missouri dot edu 1 mold (.454" HP) "cumminsnut76"
husebymjl at midco dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "heebs"
x101airborne at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.454" HP) "x101airborne"
Brimbum at AOL dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "big_dale"
richard_kratz at yahoo.com 1 mold (.452" HP) "QuakertownRich"
bburnz at pixius dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "bburnz"
sljacob @ allwest (dot) net 1 mold (.454" SOLID) "sljacob"
todd987 at att (dot) net 1 mold (.452" HP) "todd987"
ajspan at msn dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "44 Shooter"
patsher at tribcsp dot com 1 mold (.454" HP) "patsher"
angelinedecker at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.454" HP) "ndhole"
tony dot jones1951 at att dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "tonyjones"
codyhuck at gmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "CHD"
aeatwood2 at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "Alan"
hp long range at gmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "Rick B"
danann at bellsouth dot net 1 mold (.454" HP) "nccrossbow"
cher6969 at hotmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "sprues"
mjcrookston at msn.com 1 mold "Idmcrook"
kodiakken at gmail dot com 1 mold (.452" SOLID) "kodiakken"
dennisdotadotulrichatgmaildotcom 1 mold (.452" HP) "denul"
gerry.senechal at (the letter g)mail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "theTastyCat"
maximumbobby_54 at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "Maximumbob54"
janhagemans at hetnet dot nl 1 mold (.452" HP) "rpx46"
wa2eya at verizon dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "John D"
jjkar15 at comcast dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "M-Tecs"
alicejerry at charter dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "mold maker"
ussr at empacc dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "USSR"
shawnsmc at hotmail dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "shawnsmc"
nowaydnatduo-countydotcom 1 mold (.452 HP) "Butler Ford"
philo187 AT yahoo DOT com 1 mold (.454" HP) "Tazman1602"
cjrivera at entermail dot net1 mold (.452" HP) "CJR"
putteral at aol dot com (.452" HP) "putteral"
rhunton33 at gmail dot com 1 mold (.452 HP) "1longshot"
mjc427 at bellsouth dot net 1 mold (.452" HP)
silvergryfon at live dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "silvergryfon"
stfagen at msn dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "MightyThor"
Jessdog19 at hotmail dot com (.452" SOLID) "JDUBS"
flstf93james at yahoo dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "L1A1Rocker"
cvcooks at astound dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "358wcf"
Cartmilljanis at aol dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "Gun Nut"
davebz63 at aol .com 1 mold (.454" HP) "4719dave"
jeff at appalachianammo dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "JeffHolt"
jtedder at nancy charlie tango victor dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "jt1"
nick-t at charter.net 1 mold (.452" HP) "RangerNick"
ktw at solaria dot sol dot net 1 mold (.454" HP) "ktw"
putzie at aol dot com 1 mold (.454" HP) "Shakey Jakey"
paul at mail dot bradley dot edu 1 mold (.452" HP) "pcarpenter"
JohnK454 at comcast dot net 1 mold (.452" HP) "Johnk454"
rjwilk at cebridge dot net 1 mold (.454" HP) "bobo55"
skip underscore boyer at frontier dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "lead_her_fly"
fdombek at jeffreysmfg dot com 1 mold (.452" HP) "frankenfab"
keavy_13 at excite.com 1 mold (.454" HP) "southpaw"
AgCatJHS at msn dot com 1 mold (.454" HP) "Jared"

112 total molds - Group Buy Closed 1/31/11

We're moving now!

[L1A1Rocker]

This group buy is now closed

Thank you all for your patience. Please keep an eye out on this thread for miha's order page link.

Please forgive my ignorance and the fact that I've been away for awhile, are we now waiting to place an order and send in funds? I thought we were going to get an email telling us when and where to send funds.

[lead_her_fly]

theTastyCat;
If money is not a problem, then for pistol bullets, the STAR has it all over any other method. You can lube/size bullets MUCH faster than RCBS or Lyman machines. Further, bevel base bullets can be a pain with the RCBS or Lyman tools and no problem whatsoever with the Star.

Keep in mind that a Star press will last you a couple of lifetimes (I've had mine over forty years and processed hundreds of thousands of bullets). If you think long term, it's a pretty easy conclusion.

Dale53

I don't have Dale's experience. I can tell you this as a new owner of a Star luber/sizer, everything he says is true! It took all of 10 minutes with mine to agree with what he has said. They are made by Magma now and are a great machine.

Using them on bevel based boolits alone makes them worth it!

[pcarpenter]

Thank you all for your patience. Please keep an eye out on this thread for miha's order page link.

L1A1-- this is the critical part of what you quoted. What's supposed to happen is that a link will be posted here prompting us (when the mold maker is ready) to go to *his* web site and make the order official. This will be shortly before he's ready to start producing these molds. When the molds are ready to be shipped, he will email you a paypal invoice. I am fairly new here, but that's what I got from reading the thread and others on group buys for MiHec's molds.

Paul

[Triggerhappy]

morme,

Unfortunately this buy is closed to any new orders. Miha used our list in post 1 to order pins and blocks for that number of molds. He sometimes will make some extras, you can PM him and ask if he'll have any to offer outside of the group buy. He usually does.

It's also possible that someone who is on the group buy will back out. You might post on this thread asking if anyone would like to give you their place on the list.

If not, keep an eye out for another run of this mold. There has been enough interest that I would expect we'll run it again.

I'm sorry that you missed the buy, it should be a nice mold.

TH

[Triggerhappy]

If anyone has a question about the process I urge you to read post #197.

This buy happened pretty quick as far as these buys go. I started this last November, that's only a few months. If we start another it shouldn't take long.

TH

[morme@gte.net]

Can I add my name to the list? morme at gte dot net
thanks

[Triggerhappy]

morme,

This buy is closed. Please read post #417.