surplus equilivants to 2400 or Unique

[Bill S]

All of you that post about using surplus powders have gotten me interested in possibly trying surplus. My favorite all around powders are 2400 and Unique. Are there any surplus powders in the same burn ranges as either of these two powders?

[Willbird]

I know it isnt surplus, but UNIVERSAL clays seems a lot like unique, and if you sneak in where the Elmer Fudd trapshooters buy it is usually pretty cheap. and oh BOY is it clean burning stuff.

FWIW


Bill

[Junior1942]

WC820 (n) is close to 2400.

[Bill S]

Willbird,
Where I'm moving to (western Oklahoma) there aren't many trapshooters that I know of, and very few stores that carry any reloading supplies, so I was sorta kinda hoping to find a powder I could order from places like GIBrass or other less expensive internet or mail order alternatives. Any ideas?

Junior1942,
On the WC820, is it one of the powders that has a substantial difference in burn rates depending upon the lot? If so, what is the correct way to test for burn rate?If not, is it usually faster or slower than 2400?
Also, the new beard (I saw a pic of you on, I think Delta Blues, without a beard) looks good on you. You look almost like a slightly grayer version of me, without the glasses.

[LowPE]

When I first bought WC-820 I was told to use H110, however, that was way too hot and now use aa#9 data which works a lot better. I've just recently found that 15 grains of wc820 works great in my Mark IV #2 Longbranch 303. Chronos at 1350 fps with a 185 grainer.

With all surplus powders use caution when going from one jug to the next.

[Junior1942]

Junior1942,
On the WC820, is it one of the powders that has a substantial difference in burn rates depending upon the lot? If so, what is the correct way to test for burn rate? If not, is it usually faster or slower than 2400?

From what I read, the WC820 (n) is like AA #9 and a little faster than 2400. On the 1 to 100 Powder Burn scale with 1 as fastest and 100 as slowest, #9 is 42 and 2400 is 43.

Also, the new beard (I saw a pic of you on, I think Delta Blues, without a beard) looks good on you. You look almost like a slightly grayer version of me, without the glasses.

You must be a handsome dude!

[Bill S]

Junior, my mother used to tell me I was handsome, before she got her glasses. Now she avoids the subject.

[beagle]

Bill/Junior....I think WC820 is probably as close as you'll find to 2400. There are fast lots and slow lots. I'd try starting data for AA#9 and then work up. I've done that and it works pretty well. I'm shooting it in a bunch of calibers. Most in the .44 Magnum, a lot in the .30/30 and .30/06 and a lot in the small cases like .223 and .25-20...all with cast mind you. And of course, the .30 Carbine but that's what it was made for in the first place.

When we ordered, we got a huge lot and I think I have about 4 jugs with matching lot numbers so it makes it easy to use.

Hi-Tech has the best deal in my experience./beagle

[oksmle]

Bill S. .... Where are you moving to in western OK?

oksmle

[454PB]

I agree with the above posts on WC820. In my .44 mags, 22 grains of WC820 chronographs nearly identical to 22 grains of 2400.

The way I avoid lot to lot differences is to buy large quantities......I currently have four 8 pound containers of WC820, all the same lot number.

[Bill S]

OKSMLE,
I'll be moving back out around Elk City. I was born and raised there, and am moving back to help my mother out. Dad died about a month ago, and no one else is close enough to do her running, and fixit chores.