30-30 and 200 grain boolits

[Bret4207]

True, that's one of the benefits of the 99's 26" barrel.

[Suo Gan]

Okay gang the 311284 mold is up in the group buy section, you snooze you lose!
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=86382

[rmaster14145]

great thread for me, I just cast up a bunch of lee C-309-200r 200 grainers and will be gettting a schmidt rubin converted to 30-30 soon , I think if it shoots them accuratley it will be a deadly combo for deer, or even moose , If not the girlfriends 30-06 will get them all

WHAT? why convert it to a 30-30? the k31 is an AWESOME rifle.

rm

[dnepr]

WHAT? why convert it to a 30-30? the k31 is an AWESOME rifle.

rm

I didn't have it converted it was done years ago , I agree that the k31 is fine the way it is but this is the one I stumbled onto a deal on

[excess650]

great thread for me, I just cast up a bunch of lee C-309-200r 200 grainers and will be gettting a schmidt rubin converted to 30-30 soon , I think if it shoots them accuratley it will be a deadly combo for deer, or even moose , If not the girlfriends 30-06 will get them all

Tell me it isn't really a K31 converted to 30-30. I just saw a 1911? SR converted to 308W today, and I doubt that action is as strong as the K31.

[dnepr]

Tell me it isn't really a K31 converted to 30-30. I just saw a 1911? SR converted to 308W today, and I doubt that action is as strong as the K31.

no it isn't a K31 , I believe it isa 1896/11 rifle but I am not positive , I am pretty new to the schmidt's this is my first one , really seems like a sweet little rifle , can't wait to get some time off of work to go pick it up

[excess650]

Someone just posted load data and pictures for 1911 SR 7.5x55. Rifles earlier than the K31 had longer actions.

[Bret4207]

If you look through old (1950's) American Rifleman mags you'll see adds for S+R in 30-30. Lots of them. I think they were usually the 96/11. I handled a K-31 308, might have bought it but the shop owner thought it was made of gold.

[excess650]

1950s, eh? K31s saw service until 1958, so more than likely the ads you saw were for the earlier rifles. Converted to 30-30 might have made them more saleable here in the US or Canada. The 7.5x55 seems to take the same shell holder as the 30-30. Interestingly, the K31 has no problem with the smaller, rebated rim 284 Win case necked up to 30cal.

I dunno how strong the earlier action was, but would certainly trust it in 30-30. I don't think the K31 (karabiner) to be a lightweight, so the earlier, longer action would surely be heavy, particularly with a longish barrel.

[Greg]

I had bought a single cavity Lyman 311290 off the Swappin & Selling threads, that had been bored to cast a plain base boolit.

the day that it came I cast a few out of a 50:50 alloy of wheel weights and pure lead. sized to .311 with a NRA alox lube.

with a SWAG applied load as follows…

30-30 DWM brass;
WLP primer;
13.0 grains SR4759
2.810 oal
311290 at .311 and 207 grains plain base, '8' BHN

H&R 30-30 Handi-Rifle, 1-4X scope

5 rounds into about 3½" at 50 yards

when the first shot cracked off I knew it was gona leave some skid marks.

these were a lot hotter than what I hoped for. I had thought that it would be about 1400 fps…with the way that it 'cracked' I think it was closer to 1700 fps. most of the leading pushed out with a tight patch

so, If anybody’s got a better SWAG on a 200 grainer at about 1350 fps, I’m all ears.

[excess650]

[so, If anybody’s got a better SWAG on a 200 grainer at about 1350 fps, I’m all ears.]

maybe 8gr Unique or 9gr Herco?

[Greg]

I followed excess650’s suggestion and loaded 5 rounds with Herco, thusly…

30-30 DWM brass;
WLP primer;
8.0 grains Herco
2.810 oal
311290 at .311 and 207 grains-plain base, '8' BHN

boolits cast of 50:50 alloy WWb air cooled.

H&R 30-30 Handi-Rifle, 1¾-5X scope

5 rounds into about 2" at 50 yards

each shot was nice and smooth as it fired. no crack, minimal recoil.

these were a lot better than what I had loaded at first. what little leading there was, pushed out with a tight patch

next I’m going to load 7 and then 7½ grains Herco, looking to tighten the group. maybe try some of wax gas-checks to diminish the leading to nothing.

[leadman]

I shot the 314299 sized to .309" weight 200grs, 22grs 5744, vel. 1,830fps out of my Contender 21" 30-30 carbine. Groups size was 1.083" for 3 shots.

May carry this for cow elk this fall. Might try to make some softnose boolits for the hunt.