an old thread but like the 45 LC talking about guns never gets old. I have had a few 45 LC I had all thee barrel length 25-5 smiths when they were new in the 80s being the wise man I am I sold them off. I got the hankering for another smith and picked this 4in 25-5 I had 2 uberti I wish I had kept also. I don't post on here as much as I should, this is a very good forum. I have used 19gr. of H4227 and a 250 Keith for decades. recently I have been using 16gr of 2400 and it dose well. today I am loading some with 8.5 of unique. I also love the 44 sp. but that is for another thread,,,,,,,,,,,,