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    leftover powder

    I've been using up my 1lb cans and it always seems there is a little bit left in every one. Do you guys get rid of it or just add it to the next batch? I was under the impression that you don't want to mix batch numbers of powder but it kinda seems like a waste considering the price of powder these days.

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    The stuff makes great fertilizer. I keep any powder I cant use in a can until its time to till the garden and then sprinkle it in as I turn the soil.
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    I mix it with the new can. Usually when I get down to 1/2 can I add it to my shopping list. When I get the new can/bottle I pour both old and new into a larger container and mix together really well. You can then return to original containers. Now the important part. This newly mixed powder should be treated as a NEW powder. In other words back your load off 10% and work up watching for pressure and performance. Others may disagree but this is how I do it.
    If your load was max to start with you should do this with any new lot number of powder.

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    I use an 8 pound can, when I buy another 1 pounder, I just add it to the 8lb can
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    You didn't hear it here, you didn't hear it from me. I keep all the scraps, all the floor sweeping of pistol powder. Mix it all together and call it "Bee Powder"
    Each spring, I load some .45LC (with enlarged primer hole) and with 2-3 grains of "Bee powder". A styrofoam wad over powder, then walnut hull or COW or corn-cob polishing compound(?) and topped off with another styrofoam wad. Slightest possible crimp on the brass, YMMV. The styrofoam comes from the meat packages at the grocery stores, typically 1/16" or so thick. Use a Harbor Freight disc punch to core out the wads.
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    And when you hit them dead center with a "Bee round" they explode into a yellow vapor!!
    Think you're good with a pistol?? Hah!! Try some "Bee rounds" on some Carpenter bees. Much, much harder than you suspect, much fun, and excellent practice!! I'll say it again, EXCELLENT practice. Range is probably less than 10' or so, you can't hurt your house at those distances. (I know)
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    I mix it in.

    That is with commercial canister powder. I know folks who do it with pulldown and surplus as well. I've never done it with surplus, just shoot it all up.

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    Lee: I have a can of mixed 4064 and 3031 (don't ask) that I have kept for years as I knew someday I'd find a use for it. I'm not into making pipe bombs, but you idea makes sense. A few grains under a shot load should be safe.

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    DLCTEX as I said. If you think you're good with a pistol, give them Carpenter Bees a try. In my case, it was a humbling experience. Not to menyion the looks you get from passersby as you're out there blazing away! (And that display keeps the wackos from coming back!!)
    I'm not even sure if the couple grains under that light load even ignites. But I haVe the satisfaction of believing I have put my scraps powder to good use...........Lee
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    If the load is a screamer I work it up starting over with a 5% reduction when I replace a new lot number. If it isn't near a book max I put the new loads into a different container, write the lot number on it and see if it groups and chronos the same.
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    mix it in

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    I always mix the last ounce or two of canister powder into a new can. I don't think I'd do that with surplus powders.

    My "95% Solution" will allow you to swap ANY load component and test it with minimal use of supplies, time and shooting. http://www.reloadingroom.com/index_files/95S.htm

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    Bee Load

    Lee, I like your post on the Bee Load. Those darn bees love the deck on the back of my house. They will sure be suprised this year when the BEE load is unloaded on them.

    Thanks, Big Country

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    I have had to buy 1 pound cans of some powders lately as larger were not available. I mix it all together and put it back in the containers.

    then I mark the lot numbers with marker on them. I work up the load and it is good for all the cans. In the long run saves labor and powder.

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    Wow. One more thing to consider.

    I'm a loading n00b & this subject never even entered my mind, but makes a lot of sense.

    I'm rolling powderpuff target loads strictly by published data so I doubt mixing lots will get me in trouble but I'll definitely keep this in mind when I start start going bigger.

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    It isn't widely publicized, but the maximum lot-lot variation permitted in canister-grade powder is 5% - and most lots are held to less than 3% variation from the specifications for that type powder.

    So, if your loads are within 5% of book maximum, changing from the coolest permissible lot to the hottest permissible one might put you above maximum allowable pressure. That's precisely why I developed my 95% Solution described in the article linked above.

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    I mix it in, but i rarely if ever shoot near max so i'm not really worried if i were up near max and mixed alot in i would like most here back off and load up once again.
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    I mix it in.

    And I have a container of Red Dot/Herco. Don't ask. I call it Fast Herco - or Slow Red Dot - and use it for plinkers. They are close enough in burning rate that I doubt there is a problem.
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