Primer Alert

[jdgabbard]

I know some of you are still feeling the pain of having a short supply. So I figured I'd let you that need them know. Powder Valley has Wolf primers of virtually all flavors in stock.

Remember when buying: Get enough for yourself, but leave some for the other guy. Otherwise this "scare" is never going to end.

[jonk]

I'm set but thanks for the heads up.

There are still hoarders. One guy I know started buying frantically at ANY price when Obama got in. He's got more money than sense and is approaching 1 million primers on his shelf alone. And buying 5-10,000 more every month.

He's also sitting on a wharehouse full of centerfire ammo. I call it that, but it's really just a steel quonset hut type arrangement. Man was he mad when CMP put limits on how much he could buy...

To be fair, he does (legally) own a few machine guns... they go through the ammo fast.

[sheepdog]

Theres no shortage and no scare anymore. If you cant find a box of whatever you need for $30 or less at a show you're not looking hard enough. Sure it needs to get back down to $15 but with the change in hazmat rules since Obama and the increase in starting reloaders this is what the price will likely be for at least a couple years.

[jdgabbard]

Theres no shortage and no scare anymore. If you cant find a box of whatever you need for $30 or less at a show you're not looking hard enough. Sure it needs to get back down to $15 but with the change in hazmat rules since Obama and the increase in starting reloaders this is what the price will likely be for at least a couple years.

Sheepdog, with all due respect, people are still having a shortage in some areas. And to add to this, the only brand that Powder Valley has in stock, at least as far as their website goes, is Wolf. And the last time, I noticed it went pretty fast....

[scrapcan]

Sheepdog,

That may be correct in your area, but it definitely is not correct in my area. The last show I went to, January 30th & 31st, There were no primers at the show. Period no primers at any cost.

Last weekend there was a show, I did not attend, have freinds and relatives that went both days. One relative is regular vendor and has tables. He said the primers were gone early saturday morning before 10 am. Most of the stock went friday night as the vendors set up and before the general public was allowed on the floor.

[snake river marksman]

Industry reps at the shot show said they didn't see getting caught up to all the backorders before late summer this year. And that was provided that some new scare didn't set everyone off again.

Edit to add there aren't ANY primers around here either.

[exile]

How has Obama changed the hazmat rules? Nothing that guy does surprises me anymore.

exile

[Ole]

I was shocked & happy to see when my local gun store had a shelf full of every type of primer about a week ago (Phoenix, AZ area).

[462]

Sheepdog,
No, sir, availability is still very tight. Try to find CCI, Remington or Winchester primers some place other than where you live.

I placed a Powder Valley primer and powder order because there's nothing to be had here. At that, they were the only company that had primers (Wolf only) AND the powder I needed -- IMR4895 (no H4895), W296 no (H110), Unique.

If it wasn't for the Russian mafia, the primer situation wouldn't be any better than it was starting last Spring.

[mike in co]

Theres no shortage and no scare anymore. If you cant find a box of whatever you need for $30 or less at a show you're not looking hard enough. Sure it needs to get back down to $15 but with the change in hazmat rules since Obama and the increase in starting reloaders this is what the price will likely be for at least a couple years.

obama did nothign to hazmat rules and fees...those are strictly vendor fees...not government fees.
they went up last year from 20 per to 22.50 per, and this year to 25 per.

mike in co

[mike in co]

Theres no shortage and no scare anymore. If you cant find a box of whatever you need for $30 or less at a show you're not looking hard enough. Sure it needs to get back down to $15 but with the change in hazmat rules since Obama and the increase in starting reloaders this is what the price will likely be for at least a couple years.

and it aint going back to 15 eaither.....

cost of materials have gone up and that alone pushed primers to the low 20's.

the willingess of shooters to pay 40-100 per k means its unlikely any manufacture/distributor will lower thier prices.

we can hope, but not likely.


mike in co

[Slogg76]

I actually saw CCI primers at my local Walmart yesterday for the first time in over a year. I bought the last 700 CCI small pistol primers they had (I'm about out of everything). The guy working there said they got in some small rifle (already gone when I got there) and small pistol. He also said it took a few days to sell them all instead of a few hours this time. They were $30 per 1,000.
Some local gun shops have had primers of every flavor for a while now. At $50 to $60 per 1,000 they are moving little. Lots of ammo sitting sround too at silly prices. At least around here it seems folks are tired of getting gouged and stuff is starting to sit.

[Tazman1602]

Theres no shortage and no scare anymore. If you cant find a box of whatever you need for $30 or less at a show you're not looking hard enough. Sure it needs to get back down to $15 but with the change in hazmat rules since Obama and the increase in starting reloaders this is what the price will likely be for at least a couple years.

Could be in your area Sheep and no disrespect intended, but when Midway sends me an email alert saying large rifle primers are in stock and ONE HOUR later they are GONE that is a serious shortage.

My local store, by local I mean 40 miles one way, large store too, every time they get in 500,000 primers I get a call and I have to give them a M/C number to get them to hold a few thousand then get in the car and drive quick..............when I get there they are GONE except for what they have held for me.

CCI BR2 which is what I like to use for my accurate rifle loads are $60K now too.

May be no shortage in Texas, but in Northern Michigan we still do and by the looks of the way they fly off the shelf at Midway I'd say we are still looking at primer shortages.

Just my .02 worth.................

Art

[theperfessor]

Got 1000 Win LP primers from local gun shop last week for $42.50. He had 800 left in another box but at least I could get 1000 and not just 400 at a time. I was down to last couple hundred LPPs.

[fredj338]

Theres no shortage and no scare anymore. If you cant find a box of whatever you need for $30 or less at a show you're not looking hard enough. Sure it needs to get back down to $15 but with the change in hazmat rules since Obama and the increase in starting reloaders this is what the price will likely be for at least a couple years.

Well, it will never be $15/K again, trust me. Much like gasoline, higher prices are here to stay. When you do buy, buy at least 5K to shave HM & shipping costs, 10K would be better. While I do not hoard, having 5K min of the sizes you load most is prudent as it will likely take you 3-6m to get primers w/o being raped for ridiculous prices I have seen. Primers @ $25/K delivered is still possible, but you'll likely wait awhile. Gunshows, I haven't seen any great deals here, especailly after paying parking, entry fee, time to drive there & wait in long lines. Nope, place an order w/ Graf's or PV & wait.

[saigafan2008]

When I stopped by the local Cabela's last week they had nearly all types of primers in stock. There was only 1 brand for each type in stock though (either CCI or Federal, mostly CCI) except shotshell primers, and they didn't have LR or SRM as I recall. Only WIN primers they had in stock were shotshell primers, and no REM of any kind. Prices varied, but averaged around $39/1000.

Overall, I think this is the best the primer situation has looked locally in almost a year. Still has a ways to go before it looks like it did before the election, though. Still nearly impossible to find Rem and WIN primers locally, and the CCI primers only showed up within the last couple of weeks.

Carl

[AZ-Stew]

Cabela's online mail order has CCI SR and SR Magnum in stock. All other CCI are on short (2-3 week) backorder. Their hazmat is only $20 and until Feb. 16, shipping is a flat $5.

They have Federal SP Magnum in stock, with the rest of the Federal line on the same 2-3 week back order as CCI.

Remington SP and LP are in stock, along with, I believe LR Mag. Other Rem. on short or long back order.

All Winchesters are on 2-3 week backorder except for LR Mag. which has no back order date.

I've bought primers and powder from them before. Their prices aren't rock bottom, but their back order estimations are pretty accurate. If you need primers, don't overlook them. Prices ran 32.95 - 34.95/K, with benchrest higher.

Regards,

Stew

[jack19512]

I actually saw CCI primers at my local Walmart yesterday for the first time in over a year.

Your Walmart carries primers?????

[jdgabbard]

Your Walmart carries primers?????

Threw me off too!

[hoosierlogger]

Your Walmart carries primers?????

some do, but not mine. The closest retailer to me besides Gander Mountain, is 50 miles one way to a store that stocks them.