it's hard to tell the players without a program

[watkibe]

The shooting sports industry sure has changed since I first started shooting. It used to be that Remington was Remington...period.
Now:
-Remington is also Marlin, NEF, and H&R
-Lyman is also Pachmayer, Trius, Tac Star, TargDots, UniDot, and A-Zoom
-ATK is also CCI, Speer, Federal, and Blount
Battenfield Technologies is also Frankford Arsenal, Caldwell, Tipton, Wheeler Engineering, PAST, and Adams & Bennet
-Hodgdon is also IMR and Winchester powders
- Somebody else owns Sith & Wesson...
- Last I knew, FN owned Winchester Repeating Arms and Browning.

It makes me admire a little bit more some of the companies who are still going it on their own, like MTM-Case Gard, Lee, Hornady, Ruger, Savage, and Hogue.

Like I said, its hard to keep track of all this conglomeration. Have I missed any ?

[swheeler]

Accurate and Ramshot both owned by Western powder

[lead-1]

The company Cerberus owns Remington and also Bushmaster, I'd say that is where Remington came up with the AR series of rifles with their name on them.

[c3d4b2]

The company Cerberus ownes Remington and also Bushmaster, I'd say that is where Remington came up with the AR series of rifles with their name on them.

I think they also own DPMS.

Beretta, Benelli, Franchi, Stoger and A. Uberti are all owned by the same company.

[cheese1566]

Dakota Arms went to Remington...

but Cor-Bon and Black Hills Ammo are still independent as far as I know.

[oneokie]

Black Hills is owned by Hornady.

[StarMetal]

The company Cerberus owns Remington and also Bushmaster, I'd say that is where Remington came up with the AR series of rifles with their name on them.

Some of Remington's AR's are DPMS.

Joe

[mike in co]

Black Hills is owned by Hornady.

since when ....

family owned biz since day one

ya got some proof.....must be recent ??

mike in co

[blaser.306]

Tompson Center is owned by Smith and wesson .

[cheese1566]

since when ....

family owned biz since day one

ya got some proof.....must be recent ??

mike in co

That's what I thought too...my agency just picked up 8 cases of ammo from them today. A short 45 minutes south on I-90.

[Heavy lead]

Didn't Hornady absorb Pacific years ago? Lyman and Ideal? Redding-Saeco?
This has been going on forever, and will continue, it's not necessary bad, if it keeps them in business what the heck.

[cheese1566]

Yep, as long as they can keep up in the areas of value, quality, and good customer service.

[evan price]

ATK is:
Alliant powder
Intensity Optics
Champion traps & targets
Weaver scopes & accessories
Blazer ammo
CCI ammo
Independance ammo
Speer bullets
Speer ammo
Gunslick products
Nitrex optics
RCBS reloading gear
Fusion ammo
Estate ammo
Outers products
Shooters Ridge products
Ram-Line products
Federal ammunition



That's ALL under ATK's umbrella... formerly Honeywell.

They also run the Lake City military ammo plant.


I also heard that ATK has a partnership of ownership share in Magtech/CBC of Brazil.

I also heard that Winchester/Olin has a partnership or ownership in Santa Barbara of Spain.

These guys get around.

[pmeisel]

Cerberus is in the planning stages of spinning off the "Freedom Group" of the firearms companies they own, consolidated under Remington administration but retaining the marketing uniqueness of the brands. Unclear how much of the company will be sold to the public for the $200 milliion they ask....

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...21-704402.html

[swheeler]

And let us not forget, Wilson Barrels/ Cooper Arms

[scrapcan]

I saw an advertisement for an ammunition manufacturing company in Rapid City, SD for sale. Don't remember the price, but sure thought it could be Black Hills. anyone know if they are up for sale?

[AZ-Stew]

Accurate and Ramshot both owned by Western powder

This group also includes the Montana X-treme line of products.

Regards,

Stew

[Trifocals]

Remington also picked up Miller Arms and a couple of other companies under the Dakota Arms umbrella.

[outdoorfan]

I talked to somebody reputable a few months back that said Remmy had taken over Savage.

I don't see this trend as a good thing when power keeps getting centralized in fewer & fewer hands.

[pmeisel]

It appears to me they are buying up premium brand names (e.g. Dakota, Cooper), so they can sell premium-brand products, while using larger-scale manufacturing methods and efficiency of administration (instead of having customer service spread over 8 companies, you call one department in Madison NC, same with writing checks and paying bills, banking, setting up websites, IT support, all the necessary headaches of managing business administration).

They want to make money. And they are managed by people who know how to do that. Let's just hope they don't forget how to make good guns!

Note: I haven't been able to find anything about them acquiring Savage. I don't think they have.