40 cal from 9mm easiest by far and cheap!

[nickE10mm]

I'm confused?????? What do you want?

BT

Sorry! I posted in the wrong thread. My bad.

[Whistler]

This is what mine do at 25 meters (27 yards).

10mm Auto
Winchester brass
11.8gn Norma R-123
Shot from a Glock 21 with IGB aftermarket barrel

108gn WW core
G.F.L 9mm cases for jacket (not trimmed)
Bullet length is .664"

Shot one handed in a standing position (doesn't look like that all the time...).

[BT Sniper]

Awesome! Must be about a 170 grain bullet. Formed in my BTSniper custom dies.

I love to see target pics! Glad to see they are shooting well for you. How do they compare to factory rounds as far as accuracy? That group looks to be under 2" at 25 yrds "off hand" that is great shooting in my book!

Good shooting and Swage On!

BT

[Whistler]

Yes, the bullets weigh 170.1 to 170.6gn, though I have the occasional problem with some going down to 166gn or up to 172gn. As far as I can tell it is the brass in itself that vary.

I have never fired factory 10mm, it is impossible to get a hold of in Sweden. I have not yet reached the accuracy of my old load with 12.0gn R-123 and a 176gn lead TC, but the lead bullet leaded some and was hard to clean. Maybe the jacketed bullets will break the barrel in.

The inner ten circle on the target is one inch, the outer ten circle is two inches.

[DDriller]

I wish we could get R123 in the USA.

[Whistler]

I wish we could get it in Sweden (Norma is Swedish). It is not made anymore, the few cans I've got left were made in 1993 that I got overpriced from a store selling out. (Yes, the "sold out" overpriced)

[Fla9-40]

This is what is on the menu tomorrow!
These obviously are from BT's 40 from 9's dies.
I trimmed the brass to .380 length and dropped a 105gr cast bullet in it.
They all weight 163gr ±
They measure .400 and length is .631
Will come back with some target pics tomorrow!

(Sorry about the pics, taken with my phone!)

[BT Sniper]

Those look perfect! Couldn't have done better myself!

Good pics for a cell phone.

Good shooting!

BT

[DukeInFlorida]

Your method is exactly what I do, and I get the exact same result.
All of my .40's are 165 grains (factory jacketed, cast, etc)

And, I load them to give me same point of aim. That way, I always know where the projectiles will go, no matter which ammo I take to the range with me.

They look great!

PS: I am finding that pure lead or range lead cores allow the brass to expand better than using ww or harder alloy lead.
Most of the time, I can get away without doing any annealing, and still hit the diameter.

This is what is on the menu tomorrow!
These obviously are from BT's 40 from 9's dies.
I trimmed the brass to .380 length and dropped a 105gr cast bullet in it.
They all weight 163gr ±
They measure .400 and length is .631
Will come back with some target pics tomorrow!

(Sorry about the pics, taken with my phone!)

[BT Sniper]

Great Shooting!

If I had my way everyone would shoot 40s/10mms and make their own bullets from scrap 9mm brass.

I'm sure it was a great feeling shooting your own bullets! They certainly look great. I would certainly love to see what they doo in the balisitic gel. Be sure to take some pics of that if you shoot some.

I bet you will get some bullets that look like this







Good shooting and Swage On!

Thanks for your support.

BT

[Fla9-40]

BT I started not to post the pics, because it did not do the loads any justice. Like I said it had been months since I had shot the Stoeger and I had to learn the sites all over again!

Have you ever thought about making the notching die make a twist on the notches similar to these



The others are fine just wondering if you have kicked it around or not

[DukeInFlorida]

The twist in those bullets is made by notching the regular way first, and then while withdrawing the notch punch, you grab ahold of the base of the bullet, and rotate. If you can figure out how to rotate the bullet, good luck to you.

Or, the other way is a VERY EXPENSIVE machined notch punch.

I see the Golden saber as being just a gimmick, and not worth a lot of thought.

[Fla9-40]

Just thought it would look cool.....

BT Sniper sent you a EMAIL be watching out for it. My PM is getting full and I need to clean it out! =)

[Fla9-40]

Here are some BT's 165gr ±4gr 40cal from 9mm after they hit a steel plate: SWEEEEET!!!

[DukeInFlorida]

Did you do any thing special, like bond the cores to the jackets?
They look great!

Here are some BT's 165gr ±4gr 40cal from 9mm after they hit a steel plate: SWEEEEET!!!

[BT Sniper]

Cool!

Loaded round looks great too!

Swage On!

[Fla9-40]

Did you do any thing special, like bond the cores to the jackets?
They look great!

Duke no I did not bond them, but want to try some bonded. Do people use solder paste to do this?

[DukeInFlorida]

Looking at the way the jacket opened against steel, there's no need to bond any (in my humble opinion)

[MIBULLETS]

Bonding does make the bullet expand more, it slows expansion down and retains lead to the jacket. Those don't look like there is any lead left in them.

[DukeInFlorida]

Dude, they hit STEEL!

They wouldn't have split all the way to the base like that unless there was lead pulling the jacket into the steel. I'd say that just the swaging made a great connection between the jacket and the core.