Finn M39

[JSH]

I believe that is the proper name. There are so many variations i have a hard time keeping up with them.
Trigger is outstanding on this one, bore is good to excellent, still need to slug it as it just came home last night. I was looking at one to shoot cast in and everyone pointed me to this one.
Funny thing is the thing was full of sand in the barrel channel and inside the stock. Not fine sand but more like concrete sand.

Any of you have any comments? Powders, bullets what I can expect from it.
jeff

[Calamity Jake]

I believe that is the proper name. There are so many variations i have a hard time keeping up with them.
Trigger is outstanding on this one, bore is good to excellent, still need to slug it as it just came home last night. I was looking at one to shoot cast in and everyone pointed me to this one.
Funny thing is the thing was full of sand in the barrel channel and inside the stock. Not fine sand but more like concrete sand.

Any of you have any comments? Powders, bullets what I can expect from it.
jeff

Taker a look here:http://www.surplusrifle.com/finnishmosin/index.asp

for a lot of info the M39.

If your M39 is a rebuild by Sako then it should have a .308-.309 bore.

Slug the barrel then take a look a Lyman 311299 or 314299 depending on bore dia.

Any of the heavy(170+) boolits with the right dia. should shoot good in your M39.

Like all military rifles there long throated so getting a boolit seated long enough to engage the rifling may be difficult.

My Sake M39 slugs at .308 while my Finn arsenal rebuild is .312

[Freightman]

M39 wins almost all the military shoots at the range wipes up on the '03's bad and also beats the Swedish Mausers. The good thing about the match he can only win three times with the same rifle.

[chuebner]

My 1968 M39 slugs at .299 X .311. I have been using a Lyman 311299 beagled to .314 which I size to .312 on a honed out Lee push thru sizer dia. Best load to date is 12gr. Red Dot with the bullet seated with only the gas check in the neck and using the Lee factory crimp die. This load keeps all bullets in the 10 ring on the SR1 target at 100yd with issue sights. Love this rifle. I still have a number of load combinations to try but this one works until I find a better one.

charlie

[seppos]

The model 39 is commonly called Ukko-Pekka in Finland..
Courtecy of the former president of Finland: Per Evind Svinhufvud, who:s nick name was the same.


He was the president from 1931-1937

S

[JSH]

VKT is the Sako marking isn't it? This is in a sort of an octagon
Other markings are SA in a box and a "D"
1944 is the date.
jeff

[Nora]

VKT stands for Valtion Kirvaaritehdas. The Sako stamp is an "S" inside a sort of squiggly circle. SA stands for Suomen Armeija, and is a property mark showing that is belongs to the Finnish Army. The D is to show that the chamber was throated to except the Finnish D166 round.

Nora

[beemer]

I believe VKT is Valmet. The best I can tell the D means the barrel will use Russian ammo that is .311 and Finn ammo at .308. The bore should be about .300-.311. The Finnish used about as much captured ammo as their own.

Yours has the same markings and year as mine. My M39 has got to be the least fussy cast rifle I have, just don't shoot it enough.

Dave

Nora was posting at the same time as I was. Nora do you have info on the D166 round? I looked around a good deal and what I posted above was all I could find, would like to know more. Thanks.

[Nora]

The D166 round used a 185 gr, .308" bullet instead of the 149 gr, .311 bullet of the "normal" 54R.

Nora

[txpete]

factory specs on a M39 is .310,28/30 .3082,m28 .3095,M27 .3095

I use the lee 185 gr gc bullet sized .311 and its very accurate in my M39's.
19.0 grs AA5744 laupa brass win a win lr primer.

pete

[JSH]

VKT

State Rifle Factory at Jyvaskyla (Valtion Kivaarithedas) Found on M27, M39 and M91 rifles.

SA in a box
Finnish Army (Suomen Armeija) property mark, used after POULUSTUS LAITOS in 1942



http://www.finnishmilitaryguns.com/cartouches.asp

[mike in co]

tx pete.
"factory specs on a M39 is .310,28/30 .3082,m28 .3095,M27 .3095"

can you tell me where these numbers come from ?

a site, a data sheet ? what ?

thanks
mike in co

[txpete]

sorry mike got the flu it took a bit to get back on this.
doug is a member here also.the book is excellent and just full of info and has a reloading section.it is this book that got me hooked on the finns.
pete

[EMC45]

Nice Finnish turds Pete!

[StarMetal]

Foiled again huh Mike?

Joe

[txpete]

Nice Finnish turds Pete!

thank you emc .I think there is a few more stash in the safe since this pic was taken.I picked up a very nice M27 tikka 1931 that a guy was selling as a M44.
pete

[EMC45]

Do they shoot all that much better?

[Mike Venturino]

A month ago I hardly knew what a M39 Finnish rifle was. Then I bought one someone had mounted with one of those eastern European scopes like they put on Draganovs. Dang is that thing accurate! I'm truly impressed with it.

MLV

[mike in co]

Foiled again huh Mike?

Joe

naw you got me on the wrong side of this one. i have three of them(39's)...and love them....and i'd say he is close(or the factory was close), but i see guys claiming a 308 m39 i ask questions.

i have '44 circle S, a 1970(no mark), a 1943 circle S, sa; and well i thought i had a fourth...can only find 3...lol.


isnt vkt just the mil version of tikka( converted after the war to tikka ?)







mike in co

[JSH]

So, should the one I brought home be a good shooter. I know I will need to do a bit of measuring but will it keep up with a Krag, 03, Argie and a Swede? I bought the swede on a whim, it is a heck of a good shooter to 100m. After that it goes crazy,long bullets. I needa shorter one for this one and a fatter one for a couple of others.
Gosh dang you Ken any way ,lol.
jeff