casting for 30 carbine?

[Marlin Hunter]

Has anyone cast for the 30 carbine?

Do I need a gas check bullt for the 30 carbine?

I was thinking about using the Lee 32 cal pistol boolit 311-100-2R



the 30 carbine should be similar to a 38/357 round.

[Bret4207]

If you want the action to cycle then a GC design would sure make things easier. But, there's no reason you couldn't try the PB boolit with appropriate charges.

[Leftoverdj]

I've cast for the .30 carbine. It's a iffie proposition for plain base bullets. Enough pressure to operate the carbine is right on the edge of too much pressure for the bullet. I was using the Lyman 130 #311410 (312410?), and I'm pretty sure it can't be done with a 100 grain bullet.

Were I to try it again, I'd try the Lee C309-113-RF. Might be some trouble getting it to feed, but it's the right weight, it's GC, and it shoots like a dream in other .30 cals.

[mto7464]

PB work fine in mine but the gas check boolits shoot better.

I tried some of the 32 boolits I had before I got a .30 boolit for it and the 32;s didn;t work very well

[Salmon-boy]

Beagle wrote an awesome couple of articles on cast in the .30 Carbine & Ruger Blackhawk..

http://www.castpics.net/memberarticl...%20Carbine.htm

Definitely worth a read!

[beagle]

Didn't have any problem with PB bullets in the .30 Carbine. Size it to .310 and that bullet should shoot and feed all right./beagle

[PA Shootist]

I am using the Lee 311-100-2R in my old Inland M-1 Carbine, since recently, only one hundred rounds so far, but no problems with feed, ejection, or accuracy. I am sizing .310" and I have actually found fewer problems in loading, due to the slightly larger-diameter boolit. The jacketed bullets I have used are all .308". With either of two sets of dies, one RCBS, one Lyman, the case isn't resized small enough to give a good neck tension, and the jacketed bullets want to push back into the case mouth. I have tried all the tricks of taper crimping I know, and with many brands of cases, same problem. The .310" dia cast stays put. I am pleased!

[Le Loup Solitaire]

I have been using the RCBS 115 grain Round nose with gas check. Load is 13.5 grains of IMR 4227. It feeds reliably, cycles the action and groups as well as GI ball. Sized to .310 with NRA 50/50 Beeswax-Alox and a slight taper crimp. LLS

[mooman76]

Were I to try it again, I'd try the Lee C309-113-RF. Might be some trouble getting it to feed, but it's the right weight, it's GC, and it shoots like a dream in other .30 cals.

I tried this bullet and had major action problems. Because of the flat nose you have to set the bullets real deep or the action doesn't work because the bullet keeps the brass from seating all the way and it's a little hard to because you don't have much bullet left. A round nose bullet works ok as long as it is somewhat pointed like the original round.

[thebigmac]

LYMAN 311 359 GC 13.6 Gr. 4227 CCI SP PRIMER RP CASES. GIVES ME 1" GROUPS AT 50 Yds. SOMETIMES ONE HOLE.....BigMac

[captain-03]

I have recently acquired the Lee C309-120-R GC for the carbine. The best load so far is 6.0 grs Unique. It fully functioned in 4 different Carbines with an average vel. of 1470 .. I do have the Lyman #311359 GC but have not really taken to time to workup any loads with it ... SOON!!

[USSR]

Didn't have any problem with PB bullets in the .30 Carbine. Size it to .310 and that bullet should shoot and feed all right./beagle

+1. Cast them hard. No need for a gas check.

Don

[mooman76]

The faster powders work but if it is a fast powder it usually doesn't have the pressure built up long enough to cycle the action. Not a major problem, just cycle it by hand or use a slower powder so that the action has time to cycle.

[Chunky Monkey]

I have recently acquired the Lee C309-120-R GC for the carbine. The best load so far is 6.0 grs Unique. It fully functioned in 4 different Carbines with an average vel. of 1470 .. I do have the Lyman #311359 GC but have not really taken to time to workup any loads with it ... SOON!!

Captain, I just cast a few from my 309-120-1R they cast at .311. I will be picking up some checks and a sizer die. My IBM and Winchester M1 carbines both slug at .308. I am thinking of sizing them to .309 or .310. What do you size yours to?

I got some Unique on had but might try picking up some other powders to try (i.e. 2400, accurate #9, etc). What powders other than Unique have you tried?

[jimb16]

I've shot the Lyman 130 gr plain base in more than 25 carbines with excellent results. I currently have 12 of them and use it in all of them. I have good function and no leading.

[Wally]

I've shot the Lyman 130 gr plain base in more than 25 carbines with excellent results. I currently have 12 of them and use it in all of them. I have good function and no leading.

How about in the Ruger .30 M-1 Carbine Blackhwk?

[leadman]

I size my boolits .311" or .310". Tried .309" and acurracy was not as good. If the throat will take a .311" then that is best.
I tried the Lee plain base boolit but did not get good results with it. The Lee 113gr. GC boolit shoots real good in 2 of my carbines, while the 120gr. Lee gc shoots real good in all 3 carbines.
1,900+ fps not a problem with the gas check boolits, 3 to 4 inches at 100 yards most days.

[kawalekm]

I also cast Lyman's 130 grain 311410 (Lyman #2 alloy, sized .309") and my results have been excellent. In my carbine, I get smooth functioning starting with just 10.0 grains of H110 and excellent acccuracy all the way up to 11.5 grains. Clean, with little or no leading. I'd recommend this load to anyone.

[jimb16]

Don't know about the Blackhawk. Mine is .45 colt. But really, I wouldn't expect any different results.

[Doctor Sam]

I bought my carbine from the DCM back in the 60s for $20.00.
I've used Lyman 311359, 115g pointed gas check with 12g of 2400 without any problem. Cast of linotype and no leading. Shoot thru a car door.
Jeff Bartlett's (GIBrass.com)WC820 was made for the .30 carbine round.
Fun plinker but hate scratching around for the cases.