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    Possible Winchester Update

    All, my friend out in Colorado works at a high tech machine shop and apparently Winchester was one of their customers to make parts for. Here's what he said in an email to me an hr ago (8:00 pm est):

    I was talking to the boss at work this AM and he said they threw out hundreds of parts that were made for Winchester but wouldn't be completed by some deadline they had for receiving due to maybe Bankruptcy or something. He also said that they heard there may be a deal in the works for Marlin to buy them out?.

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    Oh, nice......Micro Groove M-70's. I can't wait.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Damn, this forum is funnier then Comedy Central. Good funny reply Al.

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    The "Lola" reference.......right on point. Why the hell not have S&W build AR-15's? Colt hardly does so, and S&W doesn't make much in blue steel anymore! Next--the Win 86 take-down repros with crossbolt safeties and MG rifling, chambered in 40-82. Oh, gag.........
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Al
    The "Lola" reference.......right on point. Why the hell not have S&W build AR-15's? Colt hardly does so, and S&W doesn't make much in blue steel anymore! Next--the Win 86 take-down repros with crossbolt safeties and MG rifling, chambered in 40-82. Oh, gag.........
    I kinda like the 40-82 part............?
    On second thought.......make mine 38-56.
    Last edited by woody1; 02-07-2006 at 12:44 AM. Reason: second thoughts..
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    like the 40-82 part and on second thought make it 38-56. I'll take 38-24-36 or thereabouts.

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    Oh, RIGHT C-man. Yer like a dog chasing an F-250.......even if ya caught it, ya couldn't drive it.

    No objection to a 40-82 at all--but the MG rifling would be like taking spray paint to the Sistine Chapel.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Winchesters

    You never know. China is supplying some old winchester design shotguns for the CAS and SASS compititions. If the Chinese started producing model 94s, would you buy one? Chinese factories are owned or controled by their military. China needs money to modernize their military. It may sound silly but, it is possible.
    Rossi makes copies of the old Winchester 73s and 92s. I may be tempted to buy a Rossi made model 94. The only Winchester I own is a model 54.

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    Brazil is a friendly country. They have my vote. ... felix
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    I don't need a micro junk barrel on anything I own .
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    As a lot of you know remington just did a deal with zastava to make a bunch of rifles for them. We'll call them remstavas in the future. I wonder if they will sell them under the remingtom brand name?. Guess it would be cheaper for big green to have someone else make their rifles. Frank

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    Okay guys, it's official. My machinist friend called me from Colorado this evening and told me that all the Winchester machinery was indeed bought by Marlin and is in Marlins hands now. As to what their intentions are yet to be known.

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    I've got one of the Puma model 92's and it's a well made rifle. My second vote would be Brazil.....I'd rather Marlin took it on.

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    Joe

    Thanks for the update. Very interesting. Did not sound like winchester had that
    big of a shop on site. Must of farmed out alot of there work. I would guess that
    even with Marlin owning the tooling I still not sure they would build the guns?
    HAY WAIT?? With such a small shop and farming out the work how the UNION
    make Winchester go broke?

    Thanks Again Joe for the update

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    Gregg,

    According to my friend they make gunsparts for quite a few gun companies. Just to name a few: Winchester, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Thompson Contender, Savage...plus they cut arrow heads for someone and made parts for that Gerber pocket survival tool. This is in addition to other non gun related items.

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    Joe thank you. That is interesting. I do hope Marlin does bring
    Winchester back. We can all hope for the best.
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    Maybe Marlin might find out Winchester used a faster twist for their pistol round carbines and change their own.

    You know, I really wonder why Marlin does have Micro-groove on alot of their rifles. Do they really think it's better or do they really cut cost with it then other rifling styles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarMetal
    You know, I really wonder why Marlin does have Micro-groove on alot of their rifles. Do they really think it's better or do they really cut cost with it then other rifling styles.
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    Are you ready for a Micro-groove model 70?

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    Maybe Marlin wants to be THE lever gun company now and not make Winchesters at all? Buying out the tooling so no one else could make them? Nothing wrong with Marlins but I always prefered the Winchester for a lever gun. Just liked the looks better. As far as Marlin buying out the machinery I guess we will all find out sooner or later if it is true.
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    No need to buy the tooling unless you intend to make the product. marlin certainly didn't need the machine tools and, buying the fixtures Winchester had would not prevent some other company from reproducing the 94 or 70. Buying the jigs and fixtures just makes it easier to begin production again. Now, will marlin make the 94? I almost doubt it.....but never say, never. Marlin needs a bolt action center fire in their line up and god knows they've flunked before. I would surmise the Marlin Model 70 will soon be one your dealers shelves! Personally, I never liked the model 70 and will never miss it. But there are plenty out there that cream their jeans just holding one in their hands. What I want is the 9422 magnum back in regular production at less than the value of my gonads........yeah C-man, they're worth a lot to me!
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