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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick L View Post
    would I want my jury to be made up of the dregs and leftovers??? I guess we'll just see.
    Years ago, I had a buddy go to trial on a DUI .
    As his trial date got closer---
    He was all depressed saying his case was going before 12 people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.

    He actually came out better than if he'd just let the judge handle his case and not go to a jury trial.
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    A doctors letter will get you excused Last time I was called up for grand jury I attached my own letter describing my health issues and status with the return questionnaire. A few days later I got a phone call we talked some and I was told I was excused. They dont want to deal with those issues any more than you want to cause them.When they pick jurrers its from the voter rolls normally they only know the name address not yous physical condition.
    Hes guilty of something is always an eyeopener in court.

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    "Now we're gonna give him a fair trial, followed by a first-class hanging."



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    Quote Originally Posted by country gent View Post
    A doctors letter will get you excused Last time I was called up for grand jury I attached my own letter describing my health issues and status with the return questionnaire. A few days later I got a phone call we talked some and I was told I was excused. They dont want to deal with those issues any more than you want to cause them.When they pick jurrers its from the voter rolls normally they only know the name address not yous physical condition.
    Hes guilty of something is always an eyeopener in court.
    Florida uses license registration, not voter registration. I guess each State is different.

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    Been seated on a couple, both were settled before we got to the end. Was in the batch for a woman accused of shotgunning her supposed abusive husband while he was asleep in bed. Got tossed as were almost all the men. Had 3 or 4 women who had answered yes to question if they had or knew other women who had been in an abusive relationship.. They seated all of them....
    Needless to say, she was acquitted. Found out after the trial that the police had allowed family into home and they couldn't even present ti the jury the sheets with the blood and holes in it....
    Da had been forced by his family (wealthy) to try her. Dismissed off of a few more when they figured out I had a bit of intelligence. Trials seat juries of mainly the lowest common denominator, mouth breathers. Just sayin.

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    Update; I did NOT get selected. But I did my duty, went through the process, and didn't "try" to get disqualified or rejected.

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    In Dallas Country where I used to get called almost every year, they had a pool of 44 people for each
    court case and they did their best to get 12 acceptable jurors from that without calling an additional group of 44.

    If the attorneys thought you had a strong opinion about something pertaining to their case,
    even if they liked or favored it, you'd be struck rather than seated.
    They were looking for what you'd call 'open minded' and not biased.
    It made it easier to convince a jury, and avoided one reason for an appeal.
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    I guess I'm strange.
    I like Jury duty.
    Served 4 times now.
    Wasn't picked 2 times.
    I found it interesting.
    I even called to volunteer, but they said they can't do that.
    Lady said in all her years, I'm the only person who's ever called to volunteer.

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    I have been called several times and served two or three times.My favorite was when the selection started we that had first been picked for questioning had to answer a dozen pre written questions. One was if we had had interactions with police. I said yes and was asked about it. I told them my son and his two buddies, all about 13 or 14, had taken their 22s into the woods and were standing on a frozen pond when one shot a bullet into the ice and it bounced out and struck one of the others in the leg. Police showed up at the house to question me and told me I should be watching my son better and left. One of the lawyers asked what I thought of the way the police handled the incident. I responded with, I think they should have put them all in jail overnight. It might teach them a lesson. This got a chuckle from the judge and an immediate dismissed for cause from the defense lawyer.

    Another time after being questioned for selection I asked what jury nullification was and the judge called both lawyers to the bench and had a two or three minutes talk with them after which I was dismissed. I got the feeling the judge did't even want the term mentioned in her courtroom.

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    oops duplicate post
    Last edited by rbuck351; 10-11-2024 at 02:11 AM.

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    I’ve been summoned a dozen or so times. Served on an attempted murder jury once and a civil case where a scaffold collapsed.

    So time before last, I called the night before and they said all jurors and all alternates must appear. The jury room held maybe 90 people I was juror number 6 hundred something. The guy sitting in front of me was alternate 7 hundred something. I sat in that little room for 10 hours stewing over that. A minimum of 1,300 summons went out and less than 100 actually showed up.

    I lost a lot of respect for the system that day.
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    The last time I was called for county jury duty and was sitting in the courtroom full of people, the court clerk was calling the roll
    and it seemed weird to me that about 25% of the people on that list were no shows. The clerk handed the list to a sheriff deputy
    and Says "YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO"!


    Anyway the judge ask us to go out to the lobby and wait. About 20 minutes later we were called back in and after everyone took their seat
    the judge said that the case had resolved itself and we were excused from the courtroom.


    I was called for federal Jury duty since then and it was about 95 miles from my house, so I had to leave extra early.
    I get there and they gave us a slip of paper for us to put our name and jury number. They basically pulled names out of a hat so to speak.
    I thought that was a weird way to do things but I got to go home after 4 hours of waiting. Biggest waste of time in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LenH View Post
    The last time I was called for county jury duty and was sitting in the courtroom full of people, the court clerk was calling the roll and it seemed weird to me that about 25% of the people on that list were no shows. The clerk handed the list to a sheriff deputy and says "YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO"!
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    Here's an interesting and informative discussion of jury nullification. The lawyers in the video make valid points pro and con.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIXrYfqvhr8

    I'd also like to point out that what I did was not jury nullification. The law, in a nutshell, says that a person who was committed to a mental institution involuntarily, for a period of 30 days or more, is prohibited from possessing a firearm. After requesting a reading of the law, we followed the law.

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    My county is good about emailing and posting on their website if jury duty is cancelled. Most cases are settled without a trial. Last time I had to report, the first morning we filled out questionnaires and were dismissed. Second day, the defendant took the plea deal after they brought us into the courtroom. He was charged with failure to register as a sex offender. No idea how the lawyer thought that would turn out in his favor in our very conservative county. Would have likely received the max sentence from a jury. Two trips to the county seat, 45 minutes each way. Got a whole $8 for jury duty.

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    Think I have been called three times. First time I was asked if I could listen to the evidence and make a proper decision, even if it was the death penalty. Told them "sure, but can I bring a legal pad in case the prosecution or defense has missed something and I need more info or I might have a question on something I need cleared up". Got the boot. Both other times things were settled before I had to report for duty. Think I am too old now to serve as I think there is an age limit.
    I think most lawyers want people "dumb as a post". Easier to sway their minds/emotions

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    Called for a medical malpractice trial. Oh goody…I was a Navy Hospital Corpsman and wanted to be selected…they didn’t want me.

    Called for a self defense trial. Judge asked us to raise a hand if we carry for self defense…everyone raising a hand was dismissed.

    Called for a drug case and was selected. Elected as the foreman. We agreed the person was guilty, but the state didn’t prove it in accordance with the law as stated by the judge and defense was pitiful. Main “evidence” was the drug dog actions. I had some knowledge as my last ship had a drug beagle that lived aboard and was used to inspect other Navy ships. Small dog could be carried throughout the ships up and down ladders. Of course not being a Grand Jury, we couldn’t ask questions of the parties involved and boy did I have questions.

    We were out for hours on what had been said by the judge as a short trial. We decided we’d be a hung jury so the state and defense could try again. One lady volunteered to be a hold out if asked. No one outside of us knew our decision and we kept our mouths shut at the time. We were all called back into court. Judge asked me if more deliberation would help. I turned to the 5 ladies and all shook their heads NO. We were thanked and dismissed. We were not approached by offense or defense after…we got up and out of there.

    Jury nullification?…I dunno, but we were content with our decision. This was not recently.

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    I'm another who liked to serve. Also served on a few Courts Martials and Summary CM's.

    Sat on some interesting cases and always felt like 'we' did right by the law. Also not selected quite a few times for various reasons.

    I was surprised at some of the civilian lawyers and how badly their cases were conducted. They'd not ask the most obvious questions of those testifying. Most of the LEO's were pretty good in the chair. Only had one with an expert witness and he was good as well.

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