.45 long colt mold suggestions

[Marlin35]

You might look into the MP 452-640 design. Not a round nose but the HP is a force to be reckoned with.

[Bazoo]

You should have a heart to heart with your weird gene - go weird for you and get a flat point bullet.

[Wolfdog91]

You should have a heart to heart with your weird gene - go weird for you and get a flat point bullet.

But then that would make me normal

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[Wolfdog91]

The mp Ruger only works well, and comes with options for hollow points. You won't be limited in the OAL so it can be loaded long in the lube groove if you want for close to 1.9 oal. Not sure if you're chamber will allow, but you could also get some magtech 410 brass and load 45 bullets in those.


Here's a 410 brass shell on the left loaded with the mp Ruger only hollow point, oal is 2.93 they're 306gr with a gas check. It's crimped in the lube groove with a lee 45 acp taper crimp die. On the right is a 45 colt with a mp 454-640, which is also a good one that comes with the same hollow point options.


Description: 45 super long mp ruger only and nei 310 swc
Notes 1: 12gr mp194
Notes 2: Ruger only 2.93 oal nei swc 2.9 oal
Distance to Chrono (FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight (gr): 306.000
Altitude (FT): 0.0
Temp: N/A
BP: N/A
Shots
# FPS FT-LBS PF
11 1119 850.94 342.41
10 1153 903.43 352.82
9 1133 872.36 346.70
8 1154 905.00 353.12
7 1134 873.90 347.00
6 1132 870.82 346.39
5 1128 864.68 345.17
4 1149 897.17 351.59
3 1122 855.51 343.33
2 1104 828.28 337.82
1 1179 944.64 360.77
Average: 1137.00
StdDev: 20.55
Min: 1104
Max: 1179
Spread: 75
True MV: 1138.29

Alrighty thanks everyone! Really thinking this might be the way I go

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[Barry54]

How long till you get the Contender home?

[Wolfdog91]

How long till you get the Contender home?

Could be tomorrow could be next month lol. Got to get new gas lines under the house and I'm just waiting for them to finally come and install that before I spend anything else lol

[Outpost75]

It's been discontinued but if you could find a used RCBS 45-250-FN you might like it. It is a round nose with a tiny flat that looks like it could have been used in original 45 Colt ammo. I used it exclusively for 45 Colt for years in my Uberti SAA's.

Similar to that RCBS bullet is Accurate 45-246H. I've had good results with it. Like that it has a crimp groove and meplat is larger than large pistol primer to be tube magazine safe. I load 7.5 grains of Bullseye in my Ruger Vaquero and Rossi '92

[Markopolo]

The mp Ruger only works well, and comes with options for hollow points. You won't be limited in the OAL so it can be loaded long in the lube groove if you want for close to 1.9 oal. Not sure if you're chamber will allow, but you could also get some magtech 410 brass and load 45 bullets in those.


Here's a 410 brass shell on the left loaded with the mp Ruger only hollow point, oal is 2.93 they're 306gr with a gas check. It's crimped in the lube groove with a lee 45 acp taper crimp die. On the right is a 45 colt with a mp 454-640, which is also a good one that comes with the same hollow point options.


Description: 45 super long mp ruger only and nei 310 swc
Notes 1: 12gr mp194
Notes 2: Ruger only 2.93 oal nei swc 2.9 oal
Distance to Chrono (FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight (gr): 306.000
Altitude (FT): 0.0
Temp: N/A
BP: N/A
Shots
# FPS FT-LBS PF
11 1119 850.94 342.41
10 1153 903.43 352.82
9 1133 872.36 346.70
8 1154 905.00 353.12
7 1134 873.90 347.00
6 1132 870.82 346.39
5 1128 864.68 345.17
4 1149 897.17 351.59
3 1122 855.51 343.33
2 1104 828.28 337.82
1 1179 944.64 360.77
Average: 1137.00
StdDev: 20.55
Min: 1104
Max: 1179
Spread: 75
True MV: 1138.29

Now this looks interesting!!! I might have to give this one a try in mine..

What did u use for powder?

[Sandspider500]

I used Midwest powder 194, it has a burn rate close to 800x.

[Wolfdog91]

So she's home and geez talk about jump


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[Wolfdog91]

The mp Ruger only works well, and comes with options for hollow points. You won't be limited in the OAL so it can be loaded long in the lube groove if you want for close to 1.9 oal. Not sure if you're chamber will allow, but you could also get some magtech 410 brass and load 45 bullets in those.


Here's a 410 brass shell on the left loaded with the mp Ruger only hollow point, oal is 2.93 they're 306gr with a gas check. It's crimped in the lube groove with a lee 45 acp taper crimp die. On the right is a 45 colt with a mp 454-640, which is also a good one that comes with the same hollow point options.


Description: 45 super long mp ruger only and nei 310 swc
Notes 1: 12gr mp194
Notes 2: Ruger only 2.93 oal nei swc 2.9 oal
Distance to Chrono (FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight (gr): 306.000
Altitude (FT): 0.0
Temp: N/A
BP: N/A
Shots
# FPS FT-LBS PF
11 1119 850.94 342.41
10 1153 903.43 352.82
9 1133 872.36 346.70
8 1154 905.00 353.12
7 1134 873.90 347.00
6 1132 870.82 346.39
5 1128 864.68 345.17
4 1149 897.17 351.59
3 1122 855.51 343.33
2 1104 828.28 337.82
1 1179 944.64 360.77
Average: 1137.00
StdDev: 20.55
Min: 1104
Max: 1179
Spread: 75
True MV: 1138.29

So another question, what exactly do you use to load these ? Dies wise ?

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[Barry54]

Wolfdog91 do you have a 7mm mold?

You said in post #1 of this thread that you were on the hunt for a 7-30 Waters barrel.

[lar45]

I wonder if 460S&W dies would work for 410 brass?
I thought I read somewhere about 9.3x74R brass for 3" 410 loads?

[lar45]

https://ravenrocksprecision.com/9-3x74r-brass/

I found this place that has 9.3x74R brass listed as in stock.
I have never ordered from them before, but I did search for reviews and found several places that said they were legit and had fast shipping.
So I ordered some.
I'll try blowing them out straight with a case full of grits and a wad on top. Works great for 30-30 to 375 Win.

I have a couple of boxes of Magtech 410 brass already. I think they have the Balloon head, so they may not be good for higher pressure loads?

Found 460S&W dies on Midway, ordered them also to try.
Now to cast some more 45 bullets...

[lar45]

I just got an email with tracking# from Raven Rocks Precision, so hopefully my 9.3x74R brass will be here next week?

[Sandspider500]

I just got an email with tracking# from Raven Rocks Precision, so hopefully my 9.3x74R brass will be here next week?

Nice!! And thank you, I just ordered some too.

[Sandspider500]

So another question, what exactly do you use to load these ? Dies wise ?

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I used a mix of 45 colt dies and acp dies. Used a lyman m die to expand the first time. I did anneal the necks in a lead pot. When seating I had to do it slowly as the die isn't large enough. Then crimped with a lee 45 acp taper crimp die. On the second loading I sized the neck with a 45 acp fcd then flared with lee 45 ACP die. I seated with my fingers and the used the loading bench as well. The ACP tapper crimp die works really well if seated to the lube groove.

[gwpercle]

So she's home and geez talk about jump


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[Sandspider500]

I forgot. Make sure you have a shell holder that will fit the .526 rim. I had a 14 lee shell holder that was slight to small so I spun the cases on a fine mill file, I think I had to take .003 to .004 off.

[lar45]

Thanks, I will check on the shell holder.
I just got off the phone with my GunSmith friend, Tim Malcom( GoodSteel on this forum) he runs Malcom Ballistic Tool, MBT Custom on facebook.
Anyway, he has a 45 Raptor reamer that he used to build on a Savage action.
the reamer does have a very slight taper to it, but I think it will work and will avoid having to have a custom reamer made. I've heard the wait time on custom reamers is very long now.


His shop is booked pretty solid currently, but we've made tenetive plans to get together after Deer season to work on this.
I have a 45/410 Contender barrel and also a Rossi Brawler in 45/410 that we will rechamber.
If things go smoothly, I can post his contact details if anyone wants their 45/410 converted.

I think I will try the case full of grits thing to blow the cases out. It works pretty well with 30-30 to 375 Win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwV0WYn52Ik