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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockingkj View Post
    It a good time to buy another rifle. Can’t have too many muzzle loaders. Can I get an amen from the congregation? Lol
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    LOL! He emailed me this AM and told me he was mistaken, the drum and vent ARE threaded the same so it's on! otherwise, AMEN! from me too!

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    AMEN! Them suppository guns are just a passing fad.
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    Flints can last 25 shots or more, or they can last 2. They are rocks. And you never know how good they are, which is part of the challenge.
    I knap my flints with a brass rod, just tap at it with the right angle and you "sharpen" it. It takes some practice but you can do it.

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    Amen on buying another BP gun. The one thing about shooting BP, is the clean up. Flintlocks tend to be dirtier than Precision caps in my opinion. I always remove the lock and clean it up after shooting. They are fun though! Use the least amount of powder for priming. A lot of people starting want to fill the pan full.

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    yeah Greg, that's what I've read. I'm gonna get one of those valves that drops a grain at a time and fit it to this very small horn that I made a while back. I've read that you don't fill to cover the touchhole, only about half way. correct?

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    The idea is to have the flash go UP into the flashhole. By filling the pan, the powder acts like a fuse, causing delayed ignition. A small amount of priming powder is sufficient, say to the bottom of the flashhole. Your rifle will tell you what it likes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird View Post
    yeah Greg, that's what I've read. I'm gonna get one of those valves that drops a grain at a time and fit it to this very small horn that I made a while back. I've read that you don't fill to cover the touchhole, only about half way. correct?
    I use a plastic bottle that some graphite came in. I put a thin line of 4F in the bottom of the pan. Not near halfway. I’ve heard people say that just put it the far end of the pan too. Make sure you have the right size pick and use it each time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scattershot View Post
    The idea is to have the flash go UP into the flashhole. By filling the pan, the powder acts like a fuse, causing delayed ignition. A small amount of priming powder is sufficient, say to the bottom of the flashhole. Your rifle will tell you what it likes.
    the last sentence matters and everything else dont! we have two that are almost unfunctional with the conventional wisdom amount


    "powder acts like a fuse" nope - well yeah but only if you dont have a decent touch hole liner

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    Ok, now I have another question. When I have dryballed my percussion guns I have always been able to get a little powder under the nipple and "correct" the situation. I had zero luck with those threaded ball pullers. What is the best way to correct this situation with a flinter? I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've done this, but I know it can and will happen again.

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    T-Bird, I also had no luck with ready made ball pullers. In searching for another option I came upon steel roofing screws! They are self tapping aggressive threaded hex head units. I wire brushed the heads clean and tinned them then cleaned the heads of 8-32 and 10-32 phillips head screws and solder together. One for each end of my ram rod if I some how broke my ram rod I would have it covered. I have used these twice and they work well as long as the rod tips are cross pinned to the rod they have not separated. Use pressure on the rod, screw in till it tightens and pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird View Post
    Ok, now I have another question. When I have dryballed my percussion guns I have always been able to get a little powder under the nipple and "correct" the situation. I had zero luck with those threaded ball pullers. What is the best way to correct this situation with a flinter? I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've done this, but I know it can and will happen again.
    Put some 4F in the pan, and poke it through the vent with your vent pick. A couple pans full will usually be enough to spit the ball out.
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    I will do what Waksupi does ( I say will do because it hasn't happened with my .54) if I'm using my .54( prefers 2f) if I'm using my .50,45 or 40 I use 3f for the main charge and priming (3f for priming is less susceptible to moisture) and it does pop it out. It's only happened once though.

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    These little brass spring loaded pan chargers are pretty nice. This one actually dispenses a little too much , my little one is set up on the 40 cals bag atm.
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    This is about what you want for a charge, it is raining here today so it's not laying in the pan quite the way I prefer but it did go poof , albeit with a slight delay because of the moisture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaleT View Post
    These little brass spring loaded pan chargers are pretty nice. This one actually dispenses a little too much , my little one is set up on the 40 cals bag atm. Attachment 331034

    This is about what you want for a charge, it is raining here today so it's not laying in the pan quite the way I prefer but it did go poof , albeit with a slight delay because of the moisture.

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    sorry,but your attachments didn’t through.

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    I just tried to reload them and they show up on my screen after saving changes but I'm not sure they actually loaded until I refresh .

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    Quote Originally Posted by waksupi View Post
    Put some 4F in the pan, and poke it through the vent with your vent pick. A couple pans full will usually be enough to spit the ball out.
    this!

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    Thank's Dale, your pics worked. I figured that if you dryballed the gun, the patch and ball would be up against the touchhole where the powder should be, guess not? If I can just stuff a little powder in there,ok. what kind of solder did you use graysmoke? That's a lot of torque to apply to a solder joint, then traction, I would think. I'd be afraid of it separating

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    T-Bird, I used silver solder and a nice envelope of it, not just a sweat joint. I was thinking as you are, it does work nicely. I would venture to say that a lead solder with silver bearing strength would work as well. I had some silver from an a/c repair man( a friend ) and a good flux only had to use a propane torch for heat.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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