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Thread: Remington 7600 Remington chambered in 35 Whelen jinxed???

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    Remington 7600 Remington chambered in 35 Whelen jinxed???

    Bought the gun new. It was a non stop special order carbine that Remington kept producing in 2017 to 2019. Swapped min out with a grey laminate stock set right off the bat. Tried Hornady super performance ammo through it with 1.5” 100 yard groups. I also tried 180 grain speer hot cores, 200 grain spire points, and 180 grain Barnes TSSX tipped. About 5 ot more powders with each. Lee collet factory crimped and no crimp tested. Groups were all 2.5” to 3” plus. Then experimenting with Cast I found out it wouldn’t feed Cast or jacketed. The barrel slugged at .358”. Both my 35 Rems slug at .357. The magazine tube worked its way loose during my shooting session as well. I sent it back into Remington because it wouldn’t feed. I also told them that the magazine tube worked its way loose. It had some good looking gouges in it from some burrs inside the housing it slides into when cycling. I removed it and files the burrs. Much better. Anyways, Remington said they would replace the mag tube. So ask them to look at the barrel, figuring that it was over bored, probably ruff cut, and out of spec. It was right when they were going bankrupt a few years back. It took months to get it back. No notes other than they said they got it to feed and sent back a note saying that it shot a three-quarter inch group with 200 grain factory ammo. When I called to ask what was done I wasn’t really told anything other then I was told that they didn’t replace the barrel and that it was within spec. It’s been sitting in my safe ever since. I finally loaded up some jacketed ammo to try that I powder coated to increase the diameter to .3595”. Took it out a week prior to test different powders in 180 grain Hot cores. They all grouped 3 to 4 inch plus groups. Got it sighted in probably an inch and a half high 100 yards. So I went home, scratched my head and decided to powder coat some jacketed bullets. I figured I try heavier ones as well since I haven’t tried them yet. The 220 speer and 250 hornady Spire point. Before I powder coated them, I measured them all. Now take into consideration my barrel slugs at .358”. I didn’t measure the 180 grain hard-cores. The the 200 grain hornady was .357”, the 250 grain hornady spire point was .357”, the Norma .250 grain were .3565”, and the 220 speer were .358”. I remember years ago the 180 grain speer were .3595” to .362”. They were sent back in and Speer replaced them because they were splitting my case necks when I was trying to seat them. But I wish I would’ve held onto those babies now! Powder coating and resizing. I have them all at .3595”. I took My gun out yesterday to test. First group of three with a .3595” 220 hot core I only hit my target once! I was 14 inches to the right and a hair high. The other Two missed completely. I knew something was wrong because I was out a few days earlier and was basically an inch or too high and 100 yards. Upon inspection, I saw that my pump was resting against the barrel, sitting in my lead sled. When I picked the gun up out of the sled the pump fell forward and I saw the magazine tube move as well! I came loose again. So I took it home, disassembled it in degreased the threads for the tube and inside the tube. I then put a super generous coat of blue Loctite on it. This is either the second or third time that that tube has come loose. The screw that holds the pump forehand on was also loose again. I degreased the bolt in the threads and made sure to put plenty of blue Loctite on that as well. I noticed when I reassembled the pump that when I moved it around because there’s a little bit of flex/slop with the design of pump slides the pump was touching the barrel on the left. Like it was off-center versus the barrel. I then decided to say the inside of the channel a couple of times and then refinish the inside with true oil. I installed it back with plenty of clearance when checking. Took it back apart to put true oil on it and then reinstalled it to find out it was touching the barrel again. I had my buddy who was a gunsmith on the phone at the time who is one of my best friends, and we were just shooting the breeze about other subjects. He asked what I was doing. I told him that that pump was touching the barrel. He told me to take one hand and twist the pump in the opposite direction that it was touching and then tightened down the bolt. Well, I’ll be darn. It worked because there is plenty of clearance on both sides now of the pump. So hopefully the magazine tube will stay put now so the barrel doesn’t loosen up and also the screw that holds the fore pump stays tight so the pump does not touch the barrel. I’m sure it will help with my current groups from the last week by far. It’s not gonna fix the over bored barrel but I’m sure it will at least get me back down to one and a half inch groups with factory ammo. I better load up a few more loads to recheck my zero cause. I’m sure it probably is not zeroed after that fiasco. Anybody else had barrels that keep coming loose on 7600s. If so, any ideas how to keep it in place? I’ve probably owned a dozen of these pumps over the years and their tack drivers. I have some that that would Cloverleaf at 100 yards. Has given me nothing but problems from day one. I have taken my barrels off my other guns and put back on and never had the pump tube. Come loose afterwards. Maybe this gun just vibrates too much from the healthy recoil of the big 35?

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    Forgive me- but it sounds like you are describing a pump shotgun
    You have removed the barrel from model 760/7600 rifles? And are you calling the action tube a magazine tube?
    I like 760s but I’ve only owned two- a .308 and a 30-06 and they were trouble free so I’m no help. I hope that you figure it out.


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    i only have 760s, 2 of them, both '06s. i sold the one, 308.

    i have only seen two 7600's, both '06. one is my cousin's (wooden stock) and the other is a black synthetic stock when it first came out (1998-99?). i don't like them, the 7600 looks as if it will rattle apart. yours can vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    Forgive me- but it sounds like you are describing a pump shotgun
    You have removed the barrel from model 760/7600 rifles? And are you calling the action tube a magazine tube?
    I like 760s but I’ve only owned two- a .308 and a 30-06 and they were trouble free so I’m no help. I hope that you figure it out.


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    Yep, the magazine tube that has 4 holes in it to tighten and loosen it. If you stick a Phillips screw driver in one of the holes it will exit out the hole on the opposite side. You are able to unscrew the magaine tube off. It also holds the barrel in place. So when it’s loose…the barrel is loose. It your unscrew it all the way out the barrel and slide come out of the receiver. I disassembled my 06’ a few years back to replace the pump O ring and “tweak” the slide rails because they were bent in and cause the pump and rails to rattle loud and loose. I bent them back out. It pumps nice and firm now and the pump doesn’t rattle from side to side anymore. I’ve owned 3 7600’s in 30-06, a 243, and a 35 Rem. All trouble free and excellent accuracy. My current 06’ that was bought new in 83’/84’ has never skipped a beat, shot 100’s of Whitetails, and will stack hand loaded core locts on top of each other. The 35 rem I bought new in 04’ as a special run. It will shoot sub MOA with 180 grain hot cores. Love my 7600’s but this one has been a PITA! This limited run 35 whelen I think was a rush job/ cash grab by Remington before they went belly up. Hopefully the loc tite fixes the “coming loose” issue on the magazine tube. The uncle Mike’s sling swivel screw I installed so that’s on me. It’s came loose a few times during shooting sessions even after a good cranking down with extreme hand torque. Loc tite and a He…“man’s torque” …this time…should hopefully keep the Uncle Mike’s sling pump screw from coming loose again. Haven’t tried loc tite on either of the threads so hopefully it’s the “fix”.
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    I once owned a 7600 in .35 Whelen. No problems working the action or achieving decent accuracy. I made a tool to take the tube and barrel assembly off by drilling and attaching a metal ”stem” to a short piece of a broom handle. The 7600’s (and 760’s) are genuine “switch barrel” guns; however, I don’t think they ever offered an “auxiliary” assembly for sale. I recently ran on to that tool, along with a couple of clips I forgot I had. The only thing I did not like about that rifle was its “rattling” forearm when carrying; I used a rubber band to get rid of the annoyance.

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    That’s why I took my 7600 apart chambered in 30-06. I owned it since I was 14. When I was a kid, it was pumping super hard so I squeeze those pump slides in with my fingers, not knowing better. That thing rattled like a box of change! It was that way for years I should say decades. Are used to put a piece of foam in between the barrel and the pump when I was hunting that way, it was completely silent until I shot and racked the slide. I finally took it apart and pulled those slides apart and kept reassembling until it was a nice firm feel on the pump with zero rattling. It’s been that way for probably almost a decade now so if you have a “rattling pump” all you have to do is pull those slides apart and keep installing it back in the receiver and testing it. The one thing I have to figure out is to make some type of tool that lifts the slides up and over the bolt so I can remove it easily enough to replace the O-ring without scratching anything. It’s basically trying to slide it over what I would call it a locking lug? I wanted to take my old magazine tube out the other day when I loc tite’d it but didn’t wanna spread those slides apart to get it up and over it and take the chance of scratching it so I just kept the original one in. Have any tips or a special tool they could show me how to do that I would greatly appreciate it. I have to ask my buddy who is a Smith how he does it. Assume there’s some type of special spreader tool because with my bare hands I really have to pull it apart super hard. I’ve even put tape over that lug to try and protect it. Just keep putting Oxpho blue over the scratches on the mag tube from friction caused by pumping until I figure out how to make a tool to take apart.

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    I loaded up a half dozen non PCd 180 grain hot cores with some h4895 to check zero. Hopefully I can get out tomorrow to try them. Tomorrow will be day 3 after the blue loc tite was applied so I would think if it’s going to hold it should be set up by now. Used some I’ve had for a few years and made sure to shake it up for a few minutes before applying it.

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