We need a Farm/House gun?

[Adam Helmer]

I hear this Question almost daily from new landowners nearby. It is amusing how Urban folks always think calling 911 will provide instant response! Here in the most rural of 67 PA counties we have usually ONE state trooper on duty. Bottom line: we are responsible for our OWN safety and the safety of any chickens, calves, and other critters. So, I tell rural residents they are on their own.

I understand the new city folks are conditioned about: "guns are bad" and never needed to be their own First Line of response in case of need. Well, Times and terrain and situation CHANGE in the Rural World. That is why I am usually full up in my shotgun training classes. All finally see the "light" and most go for a homestead 20 gauge pump shotgun and right ammo.

We have become a nation of Urban "Sheep", but once they "Move to the country", they need to adapt to new think and a reliable shotgun. Every one of my friendly students gets a shotgun for their rural property and some come back for a handgun and their CCW. Freedom still exists....and NONE will Ever Vote to give up their newly acquired firearms. See, we CANNOT convince folks, but we CAN convert them, one by one. Amen.

Be well.

Adam

[lawdog941]

All you can do sometimes is just talk to them and give them the best advice. People don't like to be told what to do nowadays. So, they will learn from others mistakes. If this country keeps getting deeper into chaos, they will "flock" to training or at least be responsible for their own safety. Like you said one at a time.

[fordwannabe]

The problem is most don't learn from other's mistakes and then make the same dumb decisions that could have been avoided.

[Adam Helmer]

lawdog and ford,

Thanks for the logical replies. Let me give you a recent "Flatlander" request. A flatlanded is a new resident from an urban residence, who sold their city home for Big Bucks and invested in many rural acres hereabouts, "In the county."

My Game Warden friend told me a "flatlander" called him one morning recently and Complained deer were eating her flower bed stuff and wanted the Game Warden to "Come remove his deer from her yard." Whatever. How conditioned for "services" are city folks? Get a life!
Be well.

Adam

[Outpost75]

Around here flatlanders complain about the bears emptying their garbage cans and leaving a mess. Sprinkling cayenne in the can does not deter them. I explained that we have Mexican bears now.

[schutzen-jager]

spent first 16 years of my life at aunts several hundred acre farm in Yardley Pa. [ now Lower Makefield twp. municipal building, school + park ] - they always had a long barrel H+R single shot 12 gauge by door - when ground hogs were a problem they would borrow neighbors .22 or if i was there i would use my Remington 521t -

[HARLOWPARKENFARKER]

The nationwide average police/sheriff call response time is 23 minutes. The average .45 Colt response time is 0.5 second.

[Adam Helmer]

The nationwide average police/sheriff call response time is 23 minutes. The average .45 Colt response time is 0.5 second.

Harlow,

LOL! You nailed it. I always said, "police are only minutes away when Seconds COUNT!" Here in the rural country, an occasional shotgun blast at midnight is not a concern, since something was dealt with. Shoot, Shovel and Shut up. The alternative may be to spend your life savings to prove your innocence. Rehabilitation results when stuff happens. Nuff said. SSS!

Be well.

Adam

[Hannibal]

The thing that consistently perturbs me about people relocating to rural areas is they immediately set about trying to make things just like they were in urban areas.

Morons. You should have saved yourself a lot of trouble and stayed put. And saved those of us who reject the urban lifestyle the inconvenience and irritation of dealing with your failed ideas.

[TNsailorman]

Yes, Tennessee is being flooded with folks moving from the upper U.S. and California but they worry the locals because the locals are worried they will be bringing their liberal gun hating ideas with them and voting that way. We currently have a very gun friendly legislature and governor but that just may change with this influx of outsiders. james

[elmacgyver0]

Trying to convert liberals to logical thinking can be an impossible task.
There are gun enthusiasts on this very sight that will vote for Harris, no matter how logically an argument you use.
In some ways I believe it is a mental illness.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Trying to convert liberals to logical thinking can be an impossible task.
There are gun enthusiasts on this very sight that will vote for Harris, no matter how logically an argument you use.
In some ways I believe it is a mental illness.

So it's true,,,"You can't fix Stoopid !!!"

Randy

[Hannibal]

Trying to convert liberals to logical thinking can be an impossible task.
There are gun enthusiasts on this very sight that will vote for Harris, no matter how logically an argument you use.
In some ways I believe it is a mental illness.

I can explain it with 2 words.

Brain Rot.

[czgunner]

Trying to convert liberals to logical thinking can be an impossible task.
There are gun enthusiasts on this very sight that will vote for Harris, no matter how logically an argument you use.
In some ways I believe it is a mental illness.

Michael Savage said liberalism is a mental disorder.

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[GregLaROCHE]

I’m surprised that most go for 20 ga. I would say 16 ga if you’re not up to 12ga.

[Mk42gunner]

Ah but Greg the 16 is not all that common nor cheap in the US anymore. I think the three inch 20 gauge and lighter guns is what killed it.

It is so uncommon I posted about my surprise at seeing a brand new 16 ga sxs a few months ago at Walmart. It is still there tempting me, but the shells are $22-$25 per box.

Robert

[Minerat]

......legislature and governor but that just may change with this influx of outsiders. james

Colorado did! Almost worse then the west coast.

[PNWMLB]

If you’re gonna live in the country I suggest one or two of each. I’d have a couple different shotguns, maybe one with a shorter barrel to boot, a couple pistols semi auto and a revolver at least, some hunting rifles and probably a couple different muzzleloaders, at least 1 AR for self defense and some pellet guns for the kids!

I’m not so sure a game warden can be a friend. Invited the neighbor warden over for a barbecue with friends one evening and we were all fishing steelhead and spring chinook on the river behind the house. The ******* started checking licenses. He left on an empty stomach and I put up no trespassing signs toward his property!

[K43]

Back in the '50s 60s my grandparents farm, there was a 12 gauge single shot by the back door and a 32 revolver in the top drawer of a little glove stand next to the front door. That was grandma's pistol and I never, ever touched either gun. Grandma loved you more than your mom, but was scarier than Satan at midnight.
At our house, there was a Sears 12 gauge pump and a K98k in the closet next to the back door. No one ever used the front door, it faced the woods and fields, not the drive. Feral dogs can terrorize your horses and kill all of your chickens with little warning they're coming.
Then we moved to the suburbs and guns are bad/not needed.

[GregLaROCHE]

Ah but Greg the 16 is not all that common nor cheap in the US anymore. I think the three inch 20 gauge and lighter guns is what killed it.

It is so uncommon I posted about my surprise at seeing a brand new 16 ga sxs a few months ago at Walmart. It is still there tempting me, but the shells are $22-$25 per box.

Robert

Over here most of the older shotguns are 16 ga. Today however, when buying a new gun, it’s always a 12 ga. I’ve got a modem double barrel 12 ga. It’s not easy to get the authorisation for a pump. The only other choice is a three shot semi auto. I’ve seen some people have been buying 12 ga lever actions.