Loading Slugs So the *Look* Like Regular Cartidges... Just Huge

[nswilliams007]

This is one of the reasons I believe this will be an uphill battle. You’ll need an oversized slug to fit the mag tech brass. Then it’s going to get squeezed down in the forcing cone back to standard size.

Next all the reloading data is for black powder or substitutes using those brass hulls.

It’s said no substitutions for shotgun reloading. I think most of us bend that rule some, such as using replacement wads or using slugs with target load data.

Now here’s the ones that stand out to me with your plan to load slugs in brass hulls “for normal shot loads”

1 hull swap
2 primer swap (the 209 doesn’t fit those brass hulls)
3 all kinds of wad changes for gas seal and cushion section.
4 custom cast slug to fit those brass hulls. And if it’s going to be a large enough diameter and remain 1-1/8 ounce or less, it’s likely to be short or thin skirted.

Are you aware that wads have a tendency to push into the space of hollow base slugs?

I’m not trying to discourage you, but you might consider attempting slug loading in plastic hulls and getting the hang of that. And then try loading slugs in brass hulls.

Are those mag tech brass hulls “balloon head”? How much pressure are they designed for?

Would it be better to have brass hulls machined to match existing hulls internally so you’re somewhere closer to capacity and diameter of components designed for smokeless powder?

So while the slugs I'm intending to use for base testing aren't quite the right size, they're standard diameter, but function well from my normal hand loads and get me decent accuracy on the cheap for practice. They're even just a touch undersized for plastic hulls because they use an attached plastic base to achieve the rifling effect of a more traditional foster slug. I'm hoping, I can use some kind of paper patching, thin enough that it kinda rips away once it starts rotating and the rifled base can engage better, or find some of the bases that are slightly oversized to center them in the casing better. I use them mostly because then I can use the felt wads I cut anyways for my normal slugs and as cushion in my shot loads, without the wads being pushed up into the base of the slug like you mentioned. Saves me money in the reloading process, I buy gas seals just because it gives me more confidence, of I could make them I would lol. And in testing, with all my loads before I nail down a good load, I always lean on the edge of caution, starting lighter and lower pressure and testing the concept before pushing for effectiveness. But, if I can prove to myself that I can make the concept work and can get the tools on hand to make something decent, I will definitely be hitting up machine shops for more purpose built equipment for the process, from shells to dies, I just don't want to sink too much cash into it before finding out it's just too far outside my knowledge base

[nswilliams007]

Here it is, It's an Alder Arms Turkish shotgun imported by Black Aces, I bought it on sale a few years ago because it was cheap and did most of what I needed it to, after upgrading to a pump for most of my hu ting it became a slug gun and it's been good to me the whole time I've had it. Mechanically, it's a pump action (even still has remnants of the transfer bars hidden by the hand guard) thats been converted to lever action, and its really not to bad for $350

[lar45]

I am not familiar with that model of shotgun. I have other Turkish made firearms and they seem well constructed to me.
I don't know how strong the action is, but it would probably be best to try and stay within standard pressures if possible.
The Magtech cases are a Balloon Head design.

https://rockymountaincartridge.com/

These guys make custom brass shotgun cases in a variety of length in 12 ga up to 3.5"
They also have reloading equipment listed. for their cases and Magtech

You might email and see if you could get specs on the inside and outside dimensions.
If they made thicker wall to fit a standard 12ga slug or wad design, that would seem to solve 80% of the hurdles.
I'm not sure what primer size they are made for. Again, another email question...
I believe they made some cases for the original 12gaFH project.

[Texas by God]

I had never heard of Adlerarms shotguns either.
So I searched and found.
Those are neat for lever action shotguns. Lots of models!


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