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    BP at Graf's

    Has anyone tried Graf's "Classic" black powder?
    The reason I ask is according their website it's real black and it's available. It also appears to be made by the manufacturer of Swiss and Schuetzen.
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    Works ok in my muzzle loaders and in my 45-90.

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    From what I am told, it is not Swiss. Maybe/likely the same powder as Schuetzen which is Wano. This is from my memory, I could be wrong. I am 100 percent sure it is not Swiss.
    Chill Wills

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    I agree it is Schuetzen with a Grafs label. I shoot the 1F in my 45-90 and 2F in my .54 TC Hawkins it makes smoke and works for me till I find something cheaper. I have a couple of cans of old Goex 2F (2000) and can't tell the difference.
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    Grafs used Schuetzen for the most part, they simply put their label over the top of the Schuetzen label. A few years ago Goex under the Hogdon reign, was packaging their powder for Grafs. But after the shutdown and Estes trying to get things back up and going, Grafs moved back to Schuetzen.
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    Thanks!
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