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    substitute for PSA

    I am looking for a source to resupply a reserv of PSA. This as I understand was made in China and was supposed to duplicate AA2230 for mil contract. I read that it had too much flash so was rejected but I have found that its burn rate is quite some faster than AA2230 and even possibly a tad faster than 3031 at least in my application so also may have contributed to its being rejected. I have been using it in straight wall rifle cases like 45/70 for the higher end performance loads in my commercial ammo line. Here are some of my results.
    case - RP
    boolit - RCBS 430gn FNGC - ACWW - .460" SG lube
    primer - Fed # 215
    powder - 49.2gn PSA
    average velocity 1850 FPS extreem spread 5 shots 15 FPS

    case - RP
    boolit - 500gn NEI paper patch 30/1
    primer - Fed #215
    powder - 43.5gn PSA
    hi-1689 lo-1675 es-14 av-1682 sd-9 5 shot

    case - RP
    boolit - RCBS 525gn FNGC @ .459" @ bhn 15 SG lube
    primer - Fed #215
    powder - PSA 43.5gn
    hi-1710 lo-1706 es-4 av-1708 sd-2 5 shot

    All loads fired in a Marlin 1895 pre micro groove. Grouping was excellent.
    If anyone has a clue where some is available I would shure like to know. Perhaps it was/is available under another label. My lot # was PSA lot # 94-1
    I am loading a volume for the spring gun show that will use up my supply. Doubtless I can rework with another powder but as you can see this one is excellent in this application. Thanks for help!!!
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    .............Wish I could help but I haven't seen it in awile. I believe it was Bartlett that my buddy bought his from a couple years ago. He too was using it in a 45-70 and a 40-65 predicated upon it's speed being close to IMR3031.

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    Well if PSA is gone for good, and since it was a mistake I suspect it is then I mourn its passing. You can see from the data that for the energetic loads in the 45/70 it gave very low extreem spreads, at least with the heavier weight boolits. I did find a slightly faster powder did better with boolits under 400gn. I have been using Scott 4197 for those weights. That is another one that is no longer available as such, but I strongly suspect that when AA took over the Scott label they changed it to AA 2015 which in my testing comes up a dead ringer.
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    I'll mourn my single jug of PSA when it's finished. I've been using it mainly in .45-70, too. I find 54 grains of it under a #457122HP a perfect heavy hunting load for the Marlin, though it might start a forest fire. It's obviously got good applications in .223, .30-06 and others, as well. I have recently been thinking it'd be perfect for the 8x57. But when it's gone, it's gone. I wish I'd bought a lot more when I could.
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check