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Thread: Polygonal rifling!

  1. #21
    Boolit Bub
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    Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate the info! I know the Hi-tek coated 230 grain TC bullets shoot extremely accurate through that H&K 45 CT.

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    The problem I have with my HK VP9 is not the rifling. There is no throat. The sharp edges of the rifling 'shave' off a bit of the bullet and makes for poor accuracy. Jacketed works well. I suspect if it was properly throated it would shoot cast very well.

    Unfortunately HK also 'nitrides' the barrel so using a throating reamer is 'difficult'.

    Maybe they put a decent throat on the .45 barrels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    The problem I have with my HK VP9 is not the rifling. There is no throat. The sharp edges of the rifling 'shave' off a bit of the bullet and makes for poor accuracy. Jacketed works well. I suspect if it was properly throated it would shoot cast very well.

    Unfortunately HK also 'nitrides' the barrel so using a throating reamer is 'difficult'.

    Maybe they put a decent throat on the .45 barrels?
    I kind a ordered HK SFP9 OR already. I guess it is same as VP9.
    That is bad news. Does PDP do better with cast bullets?

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    Don't know. From what I have read from others the VP9 might do ok with lubed cast bullets. I PC all of my pistol bullets and I suspect the sharp edge to the rifling is scraping the coating.

    Every now and then someone reports a buildup of lead at the mouth of the chamber. Others with similar barrels don't report problems. From what I have seen lately many mfgs are not throating their semi-auto barrels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiriK View Post
    Does PDP do better with cast bullets?
    I am guessing you mean the Walther. I have no direct experience with the PDP, but I have owned a PPQ for about 6 or 7 years. I am guessing the barrels are very similar. I have never experienced any lead build up problems with it. When shooting it I generally run from 50 to 150 rounds through it.
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    The PDP & PPQ have the same Polygonal rifling.

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    Just to clarify, the poly rifling is not the problem, it is the lack of throat. Some get them to shoot ok. I have not.

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