This is interesting

[Rickf1985]

I might be interested in a EV but not a BYD. Check out this search. "BYD car fires 2023". The company has a reputation for burning and exploding cars.

[.429&H110]

A one ton car with 100hp will go 100mph at 20mpg, I had one.
But it will be flattened by a texting housewife in a pickup truck.
So we need an armored personnel carrier, like a H2.
In Tucson we kill a couple of pedestrians a week.
"Pickup truck kills pedestrian" says the news. No it didn't, the driver did.
My favorite headline was "pedestrian hits bus". There's a new way to die for sure.

[MaryB]

You couldn't pay me to have one of those fires waiting to happen in my garage. I repair cell phones... replacing batteries is a 25% chance it is going to start on fire. I keep a bucket of sand next to the bench to drop it in and more sand to pour on top. I have a cell battery sitting on my repair desk that is swollen to 3 times normal thickness!

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I hope everyone gets an EV, Chinese or American. It will tax our electrical grid an amazing amount, that no one has even dreamed of, and we won't be able to do anything that needs electricity, due to rolling blackouts and such. Then everyone will see all the lies we have been told about greenhouse gases from fossil fuels ...and hopefully those lying SOB's will be given what they are due.

[poppy42]

You can buy one. I wouldn’t take one if they gave it to me!

[Duckiller]

Recently went car shopping. Toyota dealer wanted $1500.00 for one vehicle and then $10,000-15000 over MSRP for another vehicle. Did not go back to that dealership. Did get a fancy Subaru Forester for less than MSRP. At 81 years old I have never bought a vehicle for MSRP or greater. Dealerships that want MSRP or more should be allowed to keep their vehicle for a very long time.

[Shawlerbrook]

When they start self combusting like those Chinese made scooters of a couple years ago it will not seem like such a great deal.

[dverna]

I am labeled an "EV hater" on another site I spend a lot of time on. EVs are not a realistic option where I live in northern MI. The only EV worth looking at is the Tesla, and the closest dealer is over 200 miles away. Not plunking down $40k+ on one to "save the planet".

EVs will capture a larger market share as time marches on. The technology is new and improving. Think about the performance of cordless drills and chainsaws years ago and what we have now. Are EVs ready for "prime time"? Not in my opinion.

30 years ago, when cordless drills were not that great, I had them. They were handy for certain tasks. I bought a cordless chainsaw four years ago and it is perfect for small jobs. I see that possibility with an EV in the next few years. An EV will not work as my only vehicle but could serve as a second car.

Ford is switching gears on EVs. They are looking at a low priced option for the masses. Their Lightning is a failure, as have been every EV offering of the legacy automakers. Ford is about 2 years away from launch and I hope they are successful. I would be interested at the right price and a decent warranty (10 year - 100,000 mile). But if they define "low price" as $30k, I will buy an ICE; unless Trump "loses", and the idiots do more stupid things with oil production and tax credits to kill ICE vehicles.

An EV will never replace my F250 in my lifetime, but I do not need an F250 for 90% of my needs. And the time is coming when I will not need an F250 at all.

[MrWolf]

Years ago, American industry was more or less being strangled by the EPA, US tax laws, favoritism for foreign companies,
labor laws and labor unions that wanted more money for less work.
Which translated into stuff being more expensive compared to imports.
At the time you'd see bumper stickers all over that read, "Buy American, the job you save may be your own".

I encounter people all the time moaning and groaning, crying the blues about the loss of American made products,
and the jobs that went with them.
I tell them that the next time they go running down to Harbor Freight or someplace else to load up on cheap Chines junk,
I tell them to ask their self if they are part of the solution, or part of the problem.

I try and buy American where I can. The purchase of the air tank for my pcp gun is a prime example. It cost me almost twice what a foreign made one would have cost. Now in this economy where I and my siblings are having to help support my Father who I on SS ( as am I with a disability pension), the extra disposable income is not there and IMMEDIATE costs become a concern. Of course this administration does not want to fix nor support the American citizens so folks are having to make hard choices. Buying American at a significant price increase or putting food on the table, etc.. No Brainerd as things are now even though it adds to hurting us.

[Winger Ed.]

When they start self combusting like those Chinese made scooters of a couple years ago it will not seem like such a great deal.

There's a couple of youtube channels about life and conditions in China.
They have problems over there with hair on 'em. You can see it,,, but the extent is hard to grasp.

It's not just Chinese scooters burning up-
There is lots of videos of their electric cars burning up in traffic, and fields with several thousands of them that
have been made, but not allowed to be sold. They're just out there rotting away.

The shop of company I retired from burned and was almost a total loss last year.
The fire started from the row of power screw drivers & drills that were charging up over night.
These tools were just the common rechargeable Milwaukee ones like ya get at Home Depot.

[waksupi]

A one ton car with 100hp will go 100mph at 20mpg, I had one.
But it will be flattened by a texting housewife in a pickup truck.
So we need an armored personnel carrier, like a H2.
In Tucson we kill a couple of pedestrians a week.
"Pickup truck kills pedestrian" says the news. No it didn't, the driver did.
My favorite headline was "pedestrian hits bus". There's a new way to die for sure.

"My favorite headline was "pedestrian hits bus".

I understand that one. I have had people walk into the side of my vehicles twice in parking lots while staring at their cell phones.

[Bmi48219]

…The dealership will sell them for full MSRP plus an additional $5K or so as 'additional dealership profit margin,' or some such crap. Kinda like they do now with extremely popular cars and trucks.

I’ve seen the extra charge tacked on the sticker as “Limited Availability Surcharge”.

[Rickf1985]

If they want to charge me that surcharge then I will help them out with their "Limited availability" by NOT purchasing one!!! With my income it is all moot point since ANY new car is well beyond anything I can afford.

[Handloader109]

Evs are economical as long as you never plug one into a charger away from your home. The chargers you pull out your credit card to pay for costs 3 to 10x what your household electricity costs. Which will put them way over a gas vehicle.
I still think it is funny, JB HUNT still owns 2 or 3 ev 18 wheelers in Kalifornia that have never pulled an ounce of freight. Still waiting on chargers to be APPROVED by the socialists out there. Had to buy the trucks before they could even place request. Over a year old

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[Rapier]

Gasoline trucks and Diesel farm equipment. Joe Biden needs a diaper change and he can shove the lame adz horse he rode in on up the lane.

[Bmi48219]

We purchased a home with a separate meter for the hot water tank. The cost per Kilowatt was substantially less than residential service. The caveat was they could remotely shut the meter off for several high power demand hours each day.
Something similar should be feasible for domestic EV charging stations.

[Rickf1985]

We purchased a home with a separate meter for the hot water tank. The cost per Kilowatt was substantially less than residential service. The caveat was they could remotely shut the meter off for several high power demand hours each day.
Something similar should be feasible for domestic EV charging stations.

That is fine but what if you work a night shift and charge during the day?

[kenton]

That is fine but what if you work a night shift and charge during the day?

Then don't opt for the separate meter. Or make sure you don't have to charge it between 11am and 7pm (usual peak summer hours).