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Thread: Thompson 56 & Harrington Richardson 45

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    Thompson 56 & Harrington Richardson 45

    Any opinions on the Thompson 56 for a non-hunter? I think it's a smoothbore.
    How about a Harrington and Richardson 45?
    I have several antique muzzleloaders that I like to shoot occasionally. I'm thinking that these two muzzleloaders might fit into that category.
    I can get them for cheap moola.

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    I had a TC .56 SB rifle.
    I thought it was fun to shoot.
    It too was pretty accurate with a .535 ball and thick patch.
    Being a smooth bore I also shot shot and buckshot loads for fun.
    A few years back.
    I sent the barrel to Bobby Hoyt and had him bore and rifle the barrel to .61 cal with slow twist rifling.

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    I would opt for the Thompson over the H & R.
    Reason being that I find the H & R to have a tendence to mis-fire due to what I feel is fouling in the breechplug. I use the same wiping technique between shots & yet don't get the mis-fires with the T/C. Just my opinion.
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    tc a better deal.

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    I think the TC is a better deal in the long run.
    The only reason I decided to have the .56 SP rifled was I wanted to turn it into a Hunter.
    The Smooth Bore shot well over 50 yards distance.
    But I wanted a rifle that was a large bore and was accurate over 100 yards for hunting Elk.
    But for a Fun Gun.
    The .56 SB gave you lots of shooting options rather than just one hunting load.

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    The two rifles are the last of an inherited collection that's been sold off. The owner wants to get rid of them so he said I could have both, plus powder, for $200. I think I'd be nuts not to get them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battis View Post
    The two rifles are the last of an inherited collection that's been sold off. The owner wants to get rid of them so he said I could have both, plus powder, for $200. I think I'd be nuts not to get them.
    I would jump on that deal.


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    I jad a .56 Renegade. The thing shot like a rifle out to 50 yards, but you had to load it tight. I think the T/C is a better rifle than the H&R.

    Sounds like the deal of the century to me, jump on it.
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    I would jump on that deal in a heartbeat.

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    Buy 'em!
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    I picked up the two guns. The H&R is a Huntsman 12 ga. The Thompson is marked 56 SB. Both are in great shape. Included were several tins of caps, a half full can of BP, roundballs, patches, solvent. He even threw in 3 boxes of Remington Magnum buckshot and a box of 45 ACP rounds (I bought an H&K 45C from him a few weeks ago).
    From this estate sale, I bought the two BP rifles, the H&K 45, an antique Lefever 12ga DB shotgun, and a Seecamp .32.
    I'm helping him price out a 1903 Rock Island 30-06, and an H&K P 7 .9mm. Both are way out of my price range, but that H&K P7 makes me drool.

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    I brought the Thompson 56 and the H&R 12 ga to the store to trade. They would not take the H&R (they took the Thompson 56). The H&R is on their "Do not buy" list, probably because of the push-in breech plug. Oh well. I'll keep the H&R (the Thompson covered the cost of both). They also will not take/buy the Rohm Mod 66 .22, and...get this...the HiPoint 995.

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    Hay
    I have a Rohm .22 short revolver it looks cool
    I fired it one time and it Blew Up.
    I crazy glued it back together at one time and fired a few rounds thru it
    Then I decided to solder the frame back together so I could hang it on the wall.
    Using 450 degree solder with a propane torch. The frame melted like it was pot metal.

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    For what it's worth...
    H&R Huntsman muzzleloaders are considered modern firearms, not antiques. Apparently, the ATF classified them as modern because they can take cartridge barrels on their frames.

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    At one point I considered having grooves cut in a .56 bore Renegade barrel to shoot minies as sizing the lubed .575 bullets down to fit the smaller bore would have been easily done. And of course it would still shoot round ball.

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