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Thread: S&W has a new one

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    S&W has a new one

    https://www.smith-wesson.com/1854

    The 1 in 20 twist could be a winner if the action can handle the COL of longer bullets.
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    I just saw that this morning, quite a discrepancy between base and limited edition. Some interesting features to be sure.

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    I'll take one! Looks like it would be perfect for rainy days.
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    Very interesting. They must want some of Henry's market share.

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    See the price of the wood version? Ouch

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    I guess trees have become harder to kill--blued, wood-stocked equals nearly 3 times as costly. If I didn't already have a Marlin 44, I'd be looking pretty hard at this one, but not the "Special edition."
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    wood stock shown is a limited edition

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    Reminds me of the Italian-mfg Chiappa 44Mag rifles (I confess to being less familiar with the Henry rifles); any word on where these are made ?

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    Cool. I don’t care for the plastic version but the wood version, tamed down aesthetically would be pretty sweet. I can see it sticking around, Smith&Wesson has a solid fan base.
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    Yuck. No Thanks.

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    The Mag Tube system sounds interesting.
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    At least we will have another lever gun on the market to give competition. I hope they will make a wood stock version with normal wood so you don't have to buy on the 25-year payment plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kestrel4k View Post
    Reminds me of the Italian-mfg Chiappa 44Mag rifles (I confess to being less familiar with the Henry rifles); any word on where these are made ?
    From what I've read right here in Tennessee at their new facility.

    Yeah that wood is some European type.

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    The limited edition blue ones have high grade walnut stocks where the wood costs way more than the stainless version of the rifle. They will likely due a blue version with plain walnut that is a closer to the stainless/ polymer price. The stainless version is priced to be competitive with the new Ruger/ Marlins.

    For traditionalists who only like to shoot vintage lever actions, this doesn't get us excited, but there is a large group of newer gun people who grew up on plastic bottom feeders and AR's and are ready to branch out into revolvers and lever actions. Hence Henry getting into revolvers and S&W now getting into leverguns.
    There is also some market demand for straight wall cartridge hunting rifles in certain states.

    It can't hurt for there to be another player to compete for market share in the levergun space.

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    Based on internet talk, I believe some people are looking at pistol caliber lever guns for "tactical" purposes. Makes sense if one lives where semiautos are regulated, and many are already familiar with lever gun handling anyway. Also just fun to shoot.

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    Ugly. making tactical levers will make them added to the anti gun list at some point, especially when some kid kills somebody with one.

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    Early on in my shooting SASS (4-digit badge life member), when we used to shoot moderate .45 Colt loads, not mouse fart .38 short Colt in a tricked-out 1873 rifle clone, several of us used to comment that if the anti-gunners could see what a trained person could do with a lever action .44 or .45 they'd try to get them banned, too. The tactical look sure detracts from classic beauty. If I need more than 12 rounds of .44 mag or .45 Colt from a 24" '92 clone I'm in deep kimchee. GF

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    I don't mind synthetic and stainless at all. It's no fun to choose between go home because my blue/wood rifle is going to melt in the rain or keep hunting since I only get two weeks of rifle season. What I don't like is putting square miles of accessory rails, red dots, and CAR stocks on everything.
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    If you remove the threaded muzzle, the rail, and the large lever, it'd be pretty handsome.

    I'd definitely consider one in 500 Smith & Wesson Magnum.

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    Videos popping up everywhere on youtube overnight on this. Looks Awesome. I Dig The Limited Edition Version 1854.
    Will be interested to see what cartridges they will offer later on.

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