I like my ugly, sucky Henry with its threaded barrel and removable magazine tube.
I like my ugly, sucky Henry with its threaded barrel and removable magazine tube.
I love my lever guns, I have a variety of them. Henry, Winchester, and Marlin. All do the same thing, but all are different and pretty in their own way. My rub with S&W is they didn’t do it their way. It’s simply a copy that they’ll charge more for to cover whatever licensing fees they incur or because they are a “premium” brand. And two models in only one available caliber. And they want an arm and a leg for the fancy version. I’ll keep buying nice older Marlins and Winnie’s and new Henry’s.
So now it's a race between Marlin and S&W as to who will supply the stainless, railed, and threaded 357 that I'm waiting for.
Remember: Ammo will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no ammo.
Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.
I think Winchester nailed lever guns with the M95 as did marlin with their M95. there was no need to design any farther.
It would be nice if somebody would come out with a new traditional lever gun chambered in 38 56, 38 70, 40 70, 40 82 or 40 65 with traditional slow twist rifling, true express rounds just like the old days. The 45 70 is just too boring....
I appreciate your liking the old calibers, but in the interim, I'd just like to see some brass available in .38-55 and .375 Win that was only available on indefinite backorder. GF
I can certainly get on board with you by wanting those things. But I think that it's like asking an engine manufacturer to start producing coal fired models - sure they probably have a niche market, but they're not likely to be profitable at a cost that is affordable.
One can certainly purchase an available production lever gun and rechamber to about anything one can imagine!
(And I'm on board with you on the '95 Winnie!)
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At first glance, I wondered if Henry was making these for S and W...I have not researched it, but I thought it for a minute???
It is great that companies are trying to offer something besides ARs and cheap bolt actions that shoot MOA. Like a few others, I am not enamored by tacticool lever actions, but I am old school and part of a shrinking market.
I could see getting a lever action in stainless steel and even a laminated stock. But over $1000 for something with a plastic stock does not sit right. But I would not be buying another lever action CF so what I think is immaterial. If this offering is successful for the newer crop of shooters, that is what matters.
I was lucky to get some “real” lever actions decades ago and am happy with them. But that new Winchester Ranger might suck me in if it shoots well.
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Don Verna
In the videos, the SW's whole tube comes out, not just the inner tube like a Henry or a 22 tube loader. Might be a little lighter than a Henry. But the Henry tube fed Big Boy system may weigh 4 or 5 z more than say the equivalent Marlin or Winchester tube system. But theHenry over all does weigh a bit more than 5 oz over the others. Its heaviest out of my collection.
I actually prefer more weight in most long guns. I'm a big guy and more weight helps me hold it steady.
Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.
Man hard pass, I dated girls back inna day weren’t that ugly….jmho
Art
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I guess I just don’t understand how it’s costing people successful shots. Cock the hammer and use the safety just like a bolt gun. That way, you know the safety is off when you are ready to pull the trigger.
Not directed at you rockrat. Just a general observation from earlier posts.
Simple. You decide to unload the gun and see that stupid safety button and start thinking about how you could just click it and unload all 10 rounds without worrying about bumping the trigger. Then you hop in the truck and go to the next deer driving location, load up, chamber and lower to half cock. The stupid safety never enters your mind because it has one specific use (unloading) while the main safety for 150 years is half cock. So now the big buck comes running through and stops at 5 yards. You shoulder the gun, cock it and let it fly just to hear the saddest little clink you could imagine. Nobody runs around with a lever gun at full cock and people would look at you funny if you did.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |