Shooting round ball in centerfire case

[Thumbcocker]

Thanks for posting pics of those neat old molds and tools.

[Texas by God]

Bazoo, how would a person be able to seat a .323” bullet in a 7.5(.308”) case- and how would you get it to chamber as a “8x55”?
Your last paragraph has me confused.


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[Oily]

In 8mm mauser i use OO buck with a 22 lr case full of tite group. Case is not sized but simply hard thumb seat the shot. 25 yard minute of rabbit with my overly long rabbit rifle 38 turk at 300 m setting. Wouldn't want to hunt very long with this rascal

[Bazoo]

Bazoo, how would a person be able to seat a .323” bullet in a 7.5(.308”) case- and how would you get it to chamber as a “8x55”?
Your last paragraph has me confused.


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They have excessive diameter in the neck portion of the chamber. I have a friend that loads for one, so I've read about it some as a result.

Here's a post by the OP even on the subject. https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...89-bullet-size

[trapper9260]

I use 00 buck size down to .310 for the 30 cals of 30-30, 308 win and 30-06 and lube them with Alox,, water down with lighter fluid . Make a good small game load also. They also work good in the 32 cal handgun loads when sized down if needed.

[MostlyLeverGuns]

It was/is not uncommon to size round balls through a push through size to get closer to the size desired. Mostly done with common buckshot, 0 Buck sized to .310 for the 30 cals, 000 for 35's, a way to get bullets without casting, usually inexpensive and lots of bullets in 5lb bag. A coating of lube does help.

[racepres]

It was/is not uncommon to size round balls through a push through size to get closer to the size desired. Mostly done with common buckshot, 0 Buck sized to .310 for the 30 cals, 000 for 35's, a way to get bullets without casting, usually inexpensive and lots of bullets in 5lb bag. A coating of lube does help.

All of my round ball loads get the end dipped in LLA... don't take much. and, easy!!!

[Texas by God]

Thanks, Bazoo.
I see that it was with an 1889 Schmidt Rubin.
That explains it; I was thinking of the K31 that I had.


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[Bazoo]

Thanks, Bazoo.
I see that it was with an 1889 Schmidt Rubin.
That explains it; I was thinking of the K31 that I had.


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I know my buddy has several of the swiss rifles, and at one time had one of each of the varieties. They are an interesting gun and evolution. Kinda wonky feeling to shoot though if you're used to a turnbolt.

[Nobade]

Just had to chime in, I was shooting my 32 cal muzzleloader today with #1.5 buckshot, .310". So for grins I tried it in the 30-30 over 1.7 grains of Bullseye since I had been loading 32 Long also. Works great! Point of aim at 25 yards and tiny groups. Game warden might have words with me if I got caught hunting squirrels with a 30-30 though.

[nanuk]

Game warden might have words with me if I got caught hunting squirrels with a 30-30 though.

in my jurisdiction, squirrels are protected fur bearers... can't hunt them at all without a trapper's license

BUT the workaround, they are so destructive on the farm, you can dispatch them as pests

I am not sure I'd want to eat one though... they eat mostly spruce/pine seeds. could taste... funny.

[nanuk]

I just had another thought

awhile back, I was trying to get .312 dia revolver bullets to seat in a 30-30 case

they ALL ended up tipped, bulging one side out, and if they DID seat straighter, they buckled the case a bit so as to not chamber

I ended up pulling the mandrel out of my Lee sizer die and ran the whole shebang up into it, swaging it straight

made it straight, easy to chamber, and look like it should. bullet stayed tight in the case also, no noticeable spring back.

I wonder if one could use an M die style expander to allow the round ball to just drop in, then put a crimp to hold it, or using a LEE sizer to bring the diameter back down just so it can chamber
you could expand it down just enough so the ball seats just below the equator, then crimp over the top?

might work for plinking?

[Nobade]

You could probably either thumb press or use a mallet to push a ball into the mouth of a fired case and it would stay. At least that's how it worked with my 30-30. I could re-use the same case with nothing but changing the primer, no other sizing. A ball is a lot easier to line up compared to a bullet.

[8x33]

I use .330 roud balls (tumbled in Lee Alox) for my 8x33 K98k.
Expanding the mouth of the case and crimp carefull, charge is 4,0 grs Bullseye.
Works fine for me at range of 50 meters...

[Charlie Horse]

in my jurisdiction, squirrels are protected fur bearers... can't hunt them at all without a trapper's license

BUT the workaround, they are so destructive on the farm, you can dispatch them as pests

I am not sure I'd want to eat one though... they eat mostly spruce/pine seeds. could taste... funny.

You need to try one that's lived on field corn and acorns.