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    AR shooters......

    Got this cartridge and I want to rechamber my M4 wannabe for it. A few questions;

    Can I use a cast bullet?

    Will a spitzer shaped cast bullet work?

    Will I need GCs?

    Will the 7" twist stabilize the cast bullet at 9,500 fps?

    Will COWW alloy work if I HT it?

    How about PC?

    Anyone know where i can get cases with SR primer pockets?

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    Reminds me of reading Skeeter Skelton articles every month. I think it was "Jug Head" that had a similar wildcat varmint cartridge in one of his stories.
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    Lol

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    Ah, the old Eargensplittenloudenboomer! Good choice!

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    Thanks Larry, I needed a good laugh.
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    Would it be better to ream a 22lr chamber to fit the cartridge, or would a 22 magnum be a better starting point?
    Do you think chamber wall thickness may be a problem?
    I think that cartridge would be even better if there was an Ackley Improved version.

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    Not enough powder capacity!

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    So how much IMR4227 to get 3500 fps???

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    That will need special magazine to make it feed properly.

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    The velociraptor varmint bullet. Should be an interesting build. Looking forward to watching your progress. Please post photos. I would use cast depleted uranium for your projectiles. Maybe a titanium gc but I’m not sure. And a plus as the glowing makes it easy to load in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recycled bullet View Post
    So how much IMR4227 to get 3500 fps???
    Completely full and compress the 53 gr V-max right on top of it!

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    Good one Larry. I remember back in the late 60's when the M16 was getting rave reviews someone with a sense of humor made up a cartridge that was a .50 ma deuce necked down to .22 with a 55 grain fmj bullet. I thought it was hilarious. james

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    Be careful which direction you shoot that, shoot it only either direct north, or direct south. My concern is it either going forwards or backwards in time, and the only way to prevent it is to shoot it longitudinally.

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    Is that a .22 BMG?
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    Pure lead only, it will bump up easy to fill the rifling!
    Blaze orange PC, so you can see it going down range, you know like a tracer!

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    You’re gonna need a looong drop tube!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Recycled bullet View Post
    So how much IMR4227 to get 3500 fps???
    Bond Arms makes a derringer for the cartridge. I usually load with 300gr of Bullseye for short barrel use.

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    Similar in design to the XP .04-50 that Ed Hall showcased in Handloader #117. The .04 steel sewing machine needles seemed to hold up well but barrel life was a problem.

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    It would make an excellent 2 mile Jackalope round. Leading should not be a problem with high linotype blends. Unfortunately the under bore design may give cycling problems on the AR platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNsailorman View Post
    Good one Larry. I remember back in the late 60's when the M16 was getting rave reviews someone with a sense of humor made up a cartridge that was a .50 ma deuce necked down to .22 with a 55 grain fmj bullet. I thought it was hilarious. james
    I remember that one too. Funny stuff.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check