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Thread: Win 231 compared to WinClean 244

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    Boolit Buddy Sam Sackett's Avatar
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    Win 231 compared to WinClean 244

    I am running low on Win 231\ HP38. I really like it for low power 38 Special and 45 Colt. I cannot find it on the shelf at local suppliers, but I can find WinClean 244.

    Has anyone used this powder for light plinking loads? It’s available and the price is right.

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    Sam Sackett

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    I have used 244 and really like it. It’s very much like 231 in regard to metering. I’m a long time user of 231 but may convert exclusively to 244

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    Used 244 in 357 with 158 gr lswc. Maximum load is light. Ok in 9mm Luger, also. Its not a powder for maximum velocity.

    I have 10 pounds i bought on sale for $25 per pound & free Hasmat. Going to use in 38,357,44,45acp & 9mm.
    1 powder to do all....

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    You guys got my attention, I was just thinking about 244 I'll need powder soon. Thanks

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    ON PAPER, it looks like a slightly slower-burning, version of W231, which may make it a bit more versatile. I would GUESS that W244 would probably do everything that W231 will, plus a coupla things. IF W244 catches hold, we may see W231/HP38 getting d/c'd (in the true tradition of many Winchester propellants) before long.
    Assuming equal availability and price/lb., I don't think W244 will replace the 10+ pounds of Alliant/Hercules Unique that I have. If I had to suddenly replace it, for some reason, I would not consider W244 a candidate. I'd look more closely at Alliant Herco, Power Pistol, BE-86, or AA#5.
    As a replacement for W231, it ought to be just fine.
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    Look for the thread same powder different name! It’s active today. It list equivalent powders
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    Poppy42, I don’t think there is an equivalent to Win 244. It is a fairly new powder, formulated to be more environmentally friendly to make and supposedly clean burning. I am asking if anyone has USED this powder and can comment on their experience.

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    I have substituted the 244 for Unique in .45 Colt. It seems to perform as well as Unique.

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