Looking for load data 9mm 135gn

[Cris T]

Hi folks,
I am looking for load data for a 9mm Round nose flat or hollow base lead powder coated bullet.
I swage them to the final specs and haven't made the dies yet. I plan on making the ogive start at a smaller diameter (like the Lee 90464 122gn but without the lube grooves and 135gn). I am planning on using HS6. I am also going to have to experiment with where to start the ogive to correspond to the seating depth. I also need to know the seating depth. Any suggestions are appreciated.

[Dom]

https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/reloading-data-center

[P Flados]

The only 135 in the Hodgdon tool is the "135 GR. ACME RN CTD". Without knowing the bullet length, the Hodgdon seating depth can not be determined. Does anybody have this info?

[Hick]

Hi folks,
I am looking for load data for a 9mm Round nose flat or hollow base lead powder coated bullet.
I swage them to the final specs and haven't made the dies yet. I plan on making the ogive start at a smaller diameter (like the Lee 90464 122gn but without the lube grooves and 135gn). I am planning on using HS6. I am also going to have to experiment with where to start the ogive to correspond to the seating depth. I also need to know the seating depth. Any suggestions are appreciated.

I use a Lee bullet that looks exactly like the picture you posted. Mine drop at about 133 grains. I use 3.8 grains of Titegroup and they run about 1050 fps. For mine, I use COL = 1.085

[Cris T]

Do you use .356" diameter or bigger?
My dies make them .3567"

[Hick]

Do you use .356" diameter or bigger?
My dies make them .3567"

I size mine 0.356 and then powder coat them, which usually makes them about 357/358

[P Flados]

Quickoad has 0.590" for the Lee 356-124-2R length. I selected that bullet, but changed the weight to 135 gr. I selected COL based on the post by Hick.

Cartridge          : 9 mm Luger (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .356, 124, LEE 356-124-2R (135 gr as cast)
Seating depth      : .259
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.085 inch = 27.56 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.5 inch = 114.3 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon HS-6

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.852% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-07.4   75     5.00    967     280   23039   3427     86.1    0.576
-05.6   77     5.10    985     291   24226   3517     87.0    0.563
-03.7   78     5.20   1003     302   25464   3606     87.8    0.550
-01.9   80     5.30   1021     313   26757   3694     88.7    0.538
+00.0   81     5.40   1039     324   28106   3781     89.5    0.526
+01.9   83     5.50   1057     335   29515   3866     90.2    0.515
+03.7   84     5.60   1075     347   30985   3951     91.0    0.503  ! Near Maximum !
+05.6   86     5.70   1093     358   32521   4033     91.7    0.493  ! Near Maximum !
+07.4   87     5.80   1111     370   34125   4114     92.4    0.482  ! Near Maximum !
+09.3   89     5.90   1129     382   35802   4194     93.0    0.472  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

[P Flados]

And TG. The 3.8 gr charge is likely in the +P range.

Cartridge          : 9 mm Luger (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .356, 124, LEE 356-124-2R (135 gr as cast)
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.085 inch = 27.56 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.5 inch = 114.3 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon TiteGroup

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.5% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-25.0   55     3.00    876     230   21488   2234    100.0    0.616
-22.5   57     3.10    895     240   22968   2292    100.0    0.598
-20.0   58     3.20    914     250   24509   2349    100.0    0.581
-17.5   60     3.30    932     261   26114   2405    100.0    0.565
-15.0   62     3.40    951     271   27784   2462    100.0    0.551
-12.5   64     3.50    969     281   29522   2518    100.0    0.537
-10.0   66     3.60    986     292   31329   2574    100.0    0.523  ! Near Maximum !
-07.5   67     3.70   1004     302   33207   2629    100.0    0.511  ! Near Maximum !
-05.0   69     3.80   1021     312   35159   2684    100.0    0.499  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

[Kosh75287]

You may also find that your best results may come from using a propellant that has a burning rate somewhere between TG and HS-6. The best results I'VE obtained in 9mmP with bullets weighing 124 gr. and over, were when I used Alliant Unique, BE-86, or Herco. I'm convinced that it is more about the burning rate than the brand, so if you have access to a Hodgdon product with similar burn characteristics, you may get more of what you are after, with a bit better economy (vs. HS-6). Hodgdon Universal or WIN244, may be your friends.

[reddog81]

The only 135 in the Hodgdon tool is the "135 GR. ACME RN CTD". Without knowing the bullet length, the Hodgdon seating depth can not be determined. Does anybody have this info?

Assuming the nose profile is similar, the amount of bullet in the case will be similar. Hollow base bullets will be longer but the capacity inside the case doesn’t change.