RotoMetals2Titan ReloadingMidSouth Shooters SupplyPBcastco
RepackboxLoad DataWidenersInline Fabrication
Lee Precision Reloading Everything
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 36 of 36

Thread: Seating Gas Checks

  1. #21
    Boolit Master hc18flyer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    NE Nebraska
    Posts
    1,136
    I watched you video on the NOE seating tool. Am I wrong to seat the check prior to powder coating? I did it for the first time with some 358156 bullets.
    hc18flyer

  2. #22
    Boolit Master


    cwlongshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Central Connecticut
    Posts
    3,691
    Quote Originally Posted by hc18flyer View Post
    I watched you video on the NOE seating tool. Am I wrong to seat the check prior to powder coating? I did it for the first time with some 358156 bullets.
    hc18flyer
    No not at all!

    It serves same Purpose and strong arguments can be made for merits of applying before.

    Bottom line is it serves same Purpose.
    NRA Life member REMEMBER, FREEDOM IS NOT FREE its being paid for in BLOOD.
    Come visit my RUMBLE & uTube page's !!

    https://www.RUMBLE.com/user/Cwlongshot
    https://youtube.com/channel/UCBOIIvlk30qD5a7xVLfmyfw

  3. #23
    Boolit Master hc18flyer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    NE Nebraska
    Posts
    1,136
    CW- Thanks for the info! Just starting to mix pc and gas checks. hc18flyer

  4. #24
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    286
    I have, for a long time, used a carriage bolt head to flare the checks. Perhaps not the fastest way to do it, but serves me well.

  5. #25
    On water northern Mn . 1903.colt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2022
    Location
    Backus Minnesota
    Posts
    28
    Im having poor results with 223 powder coated , I may go to gas checking then powder coat ?

  6. #26
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Apr 2023
    Location
    SE Kentucky
    Posts
    19
    I'm looking to order that seating tool but the website is not very clear on what is needed. Is it just that kit or is it caliber specific?

  7. #27
    Boolit Buddy


    hpbear101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Montana
    Posts
    246
    As mentioned annealing the copper checks will often help, also maybe a different brand of check (I really like the ones from Sage). I have a simple method that seems to work well for getting them square using the Lee die. I use a Rock Chucker press, set the gas checked bullet on the stem, raise it up to where it meets resistance from the sizer, then I smack the lever fairly hard and fast to push it through. YMMV

  8. #28
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Apr 2023
    Location
    SE Kentucky
    Posts
    19
    I use the Lee APP for sizing and checking but for bullets that cast really close to the desired size, there's not enough resistance to seat the check before it pushes through the sizer. I had been putting a piece of flat bar across the sizer die and using the sizer ram to seat the die but the only works with bullets that have a flat enough nose to stand on their end. Maybe drilling a hole in my flat bar to use a nose punch to fit a pointed projectile would be useful to gas check those. I did order the NOE kit and the nose punch bushing so we'll see how that works.

  9. #29
    Boolit Master


    cwlongshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Central Connecticut
    Posts
    3,691
    Quote Originally Posted by Firesubie View Post
    I'm looking to order that seating tool but the website is not very clear on what is needed. Is it just that kit or is it caliber specific?
    The kit is NOT Caliber specific. You need top Punches that are specific and proper Caliber GC's and then caliber specfic bushines to size bullets, but not the tool.

    Its called the NOE Bushing Push Through Size Die

    Kit comes with 8 parts

    A- Die Body
    B1- Spacer sleeve Small
    B2- Spacer sleeve Med
    B3- Spacer sleeve Large
    C- Nose Size Top Punch Holder
    D- Base First Top Punch Holder
    E- Nose First Bullet Ram
    F- Size Bushing
    NRA Life member REMEMBER, FREEDOM IS NOT FREE its being paid for in BLOOD.
    Come visit my RUMBLE & uTube page's !!

    https://www.RUMBLE.com/user/Cwlongshot
    https://youtube.com/channel/UCBOIIvlk30qD5a7xVLfmyfw

  10. #30
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Apr 2023
    Location
    SE Kentucky
    Posts
    19
    I've been using the Lee Breech Lock sizing kit on the APP press and have a bunch of thoae bushings. Will the NOE sizing kit work with that kit or does it replace it? And is it worth switching to the NOE? I see the bushings are cheaper but I already have all the sizes that I currently use.

  11. #31
    Boolit Master Wheelguns 1961's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Mid atlantic area
    Posts
    1,258
    The gas check seater is a different tool than the sizer kit. Here is one. As mentioned, you need a proper top punch to make it work.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails IMG_2955.jpg   IMG_2956.jpg  
    Due to the price of primers, warning shots will no longer be given!

  12. #32
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Apr 2023
    Location
    SE Kentucky
    Posts
    19
    I got my NOE gas check seating tool in the mail. It's my first NOE purchase but won't be my last. Very fast shipping and extremely nice machining. Hope to get to use it soon but house painting may take precedence this week. I've put it off as long as the wife would let me. I sure do hate painting.

  13. #33
    Boolit Buddy braddock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Dover, UK
    Posts
    101
    I experienced this issue with sage checks for non gas checked castboolits. My solution was to turn the boolit around and enter the check in the die first, worked for me. Also evenly flatted slightly pointed round nose boolits that I feel happier with in the magazine of my 94.

  14. #34
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Apr 2023
    Location
    SE Kentucky
    Posts
    19
    I was trying to apply the check to a 358156 bullet after I had PC'd it. I even tried to do 2 coats, thinking it would give a little more resistance. I didn't think to try to check the as-cast bullet prior to powder coating like hc18flyer did. Maybe that would have worked. I'll try the NOE seater with my PC'd 358156 bullets since I already have a couple hundred of them coated. Then I'll cast some more and check them before coating and making the gas check shank larger.

    I suppose that I could use them PC'd and no check in 38 special loads. I don't know that they won't shoot just fine in my 357 loads with just powder coating and no check in my Rossi 16" since the powder will protect the bullet base somewhat. What do you all think about that idea?

  15. #35
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Apr 2023
    Location
    SE Kentucky
    Posts
    19
    And INGarand, I apologize for totally hijacking your thread. I should have started my own thread instead of piggybacking yours.

  16. #36
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Nov 2020
    Posts
    8
    Firesubie, absolutely no problem, I enjoyed the information!

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check