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  1. #61
    Boolit Buddy

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    Oct 2007
    Somewhere in Utah
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty or Safety. "
    Benjamin Franklin
    "Time to take Brandon to the train station"
    "The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible." ~ Hubert H. Humphrey

  2. #62
    Boolit Master
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    Aug 2014
    Mansfield, PA
    I never advocate breaking the law, but as a retired LEO, I know we have a more harmonious outcome when we lay aside a page or two of the lawbook when common sense makes things better. Have I ever let a first offender go? Yes, because a stupid quick decision should not haunt a kid forever.

    SSS is "shoot, shovel and shutup" and that may be a good thing in the scheme of things.
    Whacking a "protected rattler" to ensure kids can play safely in their backyard seems prudent to many parents. Would they also remove a hornet's nest on the swingset?

    Laws are supposed to reflect the will of the people, per my high school government class. Unfortunately, some "tree huggers" get laws put in place far from their luxury apartments.

    I will put some of this in my January 21, 2024 sermon.

    Be well.


  3. #63
    Boolit Master

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    Apr 2016
    Here's something interesting, back in the mid-90's I'm working for Cargill in our North Star Steel division building a green field mill out side Kingman AZ at 3,500 ft elevation a desert environment. The main melt shops cavernous structure is about finished with rail tracks in for the for the adjacent scrap yard and crane gantry to feed the melt shop. Finally the deep trench is to be cut for loading the scrap buckets that by scrap car enter that cavernous structure. Giant back hoe comes in and starts to notch it out, third cut and out spills "Hundreds" of full size coon tail rattlers. It was early winter and they were piled atop one another several feet deep hibernating. Thank goodness they were sluggish. I watched 980 rubber tire dozers run over a hundred of them at once. They were every where inside the building for weeks we would stumble over more.
    We had archeologist's monitor our work because of artifacts being unearthed (that's another story) Even a year after construction during melting and casting operations were in full swing, I encountered a rattler underneath the caster, next to the red hot billet run out table in broad daylight! Archeologist (however you spell it) said upon looking at the wrecked den when it all first went down. That the snake den was probably been used for a 1000 years.
    “You should tell someone what you know. There should be a history, so that men can learn from it.

    He smiled. “Men do not learn from history. Each generation believes itself brighter than the last, each believes it can survive the mistakes of the older ones. Each discovers each old thing and they throw up their hands and say ‘See! Look what I have found! Look upon what I know!’ And each believes it is something new.

    Louis L’Amour

    The Californios

  4. #64
    Boolit Bub
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    Mar 2024
    The mountains of Virginia
    I know that snakes occupy an important rung on the food chain and keep rodents in check, but I'm of the opinion that the only good snake is a dead snake. And that's especially true with the venomous variety. Good work.

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    Boolit Buddy atfsux's Avatar
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    Jun 2009
    Living here in Arizona, in a rural area, I have had to deal with buzzworms (that's the old cowboy slang for rattlers). I know how to coexist with them and how to safely remove them to other habitats. But it is my dogs I worry about. Fortunately, there is training available for them to teach them that snakes are painful and to stay away from them. It is an investment I don't mind spending on. A lot cheaper than a vet bill or the misery of losing a loved pet.

    I too was raised to kill them wherever encountered, but I have evolved to better understanding.

    Y'all might be entertained and educated by a YouTube channel called RattlesnakeSolutions, which is a rattler pest control service based in the Phoenix metro area that does removal of snakes. They often film their encounters and try to educate folks about snakes.
    When democracy becomes tyranny, those of us with rifles still get to vote.

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    Boolit Master Skipper's Avatar
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    Apr 2008
    Behind the lines in Commiefornia
    My Grandfather used to shoot any snake he came across. His saying was "if it doesn't have rattles...it's a Cobra."
    The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government.
    -- Thomas Jefferson

  7. #67
    Boolit Master
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    Jul 2008
    In the 60's there was a fella south of us that paid $10/foot for rattle snakes. He'd milk them for antivenom. The cattle farmers didn't mind us youngins getting rid of them in their pastures or land they leased. Minimum wage was 95cents/hour. Didn't take long to figure out where the money is. Just got to make sure they's alive when you deliver them! 3 foot snake could pay the rent for a month or you could have a big time from a 6 footer.

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    Dec 2006
    Northeast Tennessee Hills
    One of the Navy guys years ago told us about high school boys earning good money shooting cotton mouth water moccassins in the swamps around the North Carolina and South Carolina borders. The tobacco farmers paid ( I believe he said) $.25 for each dead water moccassin. He said most of the boys used little 410 single barrels which they could buy cheap and also ammo for the 410 was cheap back then also, unlike today. james

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