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Thread: Is This the Beginning of the Battle of Gog and Magog?

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    There are plenty of Russian content creators on YT that show life in Russia today for her citizens. Plenty of expats from the USA and other countries producing Russian content as well for anyone who would care to enlighten themselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Gebirgsjager View Post
    What is Christ-like about the Russians? The Gulag? Forced labor/starvation camps in Siberia? Attacks on your neighbors? Threats of nuclear holocaust? Really......

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    Really? Internment of Americans of Japanese descent, murdering untold numbers of native Americans and stealing their land, don't even start on the millions killed because of America invading other countries, so please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundarstick View Post
    There are plenty of Russian content creators on YT that show life in Russia today for her citizens. Plenty of expats from the USA and other countries producing Russian content as well for anyone who would care to enlighten themselves!
    Come on man... you don't believe the mainstream media talking points/propaganda? sheesh how narrow minded!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundarstick View Post
    Really? Internment of Americans of Japanese descent, murdering untold numbers of native Americans and stealing their land, don't even start on the millions killed because of America invading other countries, so please!
    A common tactic in debating, to point the finger at someone else to divert attention from what was the subject.

    I had a step-father-in-law who was interned at Dinuba (near Fresno) for the duration. He had no resentment, and said that he could understand why it was done. His older brother was permitted to leave the camp and attend a Seventh Day Adventist seminary. He received $10.000 in compensation from the U.S. Govt. a few years before his death. I interviewed him for a college paper and got an A+ and rave reviews. Your expertise here is....?

    Native Americans, popularly depicted in movies and other fiction as robbed and oppressed, but in actual fact some of un-civilizations fiercest, most heartless and ruthless warriors. Killers of women and children, excelled in torture of captives. They certainly gave as good as they got, and just lost.

    Millions killed by the U.S. invading other countries.....well, let's see here......who declared war on who, the U.S. or Germany? Who had a dozen or more death camps that liquidated MILLIONS of innocent civilians? Hard to compare Nissi detention camps to that, isn't it? Ever hear of a Japanese incident (just one of many) called "The Rape of Nanking?" And, of course you'll bring up the A Bomb, but how many Japanese and Americans would have died if we had invaded the home islands? Everywhere the Nazis and Japanese went the population was abused and exterminated. How did the Marshall Plan compare? Who stood up to the Communists in South Korea? Lots of Americans didn't come home.

    Always a pleasure to get the views of those who hate America. If your feelings were similar about the Russians would you be free to post them in Moscow?

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    Trying to justify emotional attachments to one side or the other by arguing over which group of power drunk government hacks are the worst...

    Boy howdy now there's a fruitless endeavor.

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    Anybody looking around and thinking that maybe "Jacob's trouble" is manifesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Cheer View Post
    Anybody looking around and thinking that maybe "Jacob's trouble" is manifesting?
    Interesting thought....Worth studying about.

    We are still very early in the final season. I believe war is ramping up but the world ...especially the disgrace our country has become...Does NOT have the stomach for war. The people of the 1930's had an intestinal fortitude the likes of which these gutless cowards today will never know. ...The world as a whole has no stomach for war so when it comes...and it IS coming..the cries for peace will be deafening and the fools will take peace at any price. Mans hubris will try to fix this by seizing liberty from the world as a whole...out of fear, the masses will accept it. The sheep want one worldism. They're getting it. It won't work.
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    I think that young men will be shaving their own heads in their enthusiasm for enlistment, but that's another story.

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    1, Russia has furnished nukes to Belarus, (who are itching to use them).
    2, Russia has greatly increased their furnishing of "advisors" and material to Syria and Jordan.
    3, The peace accord between Israel and Egypt is now broken, forces on both sides have been shooting at one another.
    4, Israel has been getting ready for hordes of Hezbollah and 10s of thousands of rockets to attack.
    5, Israel now has their own air-to-air refueling capability to strike "Elam" the section of Iran that borders the Persian Gulf and contains most of the launching systems that point at Israel.
    6, Jerimiah 49:35 speaks of "Breaking the bow" of Elam.
    Elam has the missiles, (arrows,) but Israel will break the "Bow", (the launch facilities).
    7, Iran has admitted they have nuke capability, Israel has been practicing for a pre-emptive strike on the launch facilities.
    8, Egypt was adamant about Israel to stop the Rafah operation, they didn't want Israel to discover the cross-border tunnels
    that Egypt was using to smuggle arms into Gaza.
    9, All of the "nations" listed in Psalm 83, (with the exception of "Elam",) are presently located in the four countries that
    share a common border with Israel, that's Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.
    10, Lebanon will attack from the north, Syria will attack thru the Golan Heights, Jordan will attack thru the West Bank, and Egypt will attack from the south.
    11, Faced with being completely overrun, and the "Iron Dome" overwhelmed, Israel will "push the button", Damascus and Ammon will be obliterated, and the "Bow of Elam" will be broken.
    What we're seeing in Gaza/Rafah is the prelude to the Psalm 83 war, in which all the attackers share a common hatred of Israel and want the country and its people obliterated.

    The Ezekial 38 Gog-Magog comes later, it involves countries that do not share a common border with Israel, and they are described as attacking to "Take a spoil"
    In the Psalm 83 war the IDF forces, (with God's grace,) win, but take heavy casualties.
    In the Gog-Magog war God fights the battle and the attackers are destroyed by His might.

    Yes, we're seeing all the pieces fall into place right before our eyes.

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    When I was younger, I had a hard time understanding what was written in the Bible. At first, I thought that it was because I was not well enough educated. As time went by, it occurred to me that perhaps, over the centuries, as the Bible was translated from it's original form into various languages, some errors may have been made, or at least, some nuances may have been lost. There are plenty of examples of inconsistencies that can found if you look. For example, In Genesis, God gives to man all living things as meat. But the Ten Commandments tell us that Thou Shalt Not Kill. It's pretty hard to eat a steak if you don't kill the cow, so at a minimum, something there was poorly translated. Perhaps Thou Shall Not Kill should really be Thou Shall Not Murder They Fellow Man? If that error exists, then how many more have been placed by the imperfect hand of man as it handled the original sacred messages? One could surmise that this was the intentional work of the deceiver, or simple incompetence.

    In any event, the current form of the Bible would seem to be a hazardous tool to use when trying to understand the divine truths. In the hands of ill purposed people, cherry picked passages have been used to falsely state the purpose & intent of the good book. For example, we could look at the passage where Jesus tells Luke to sell his cloak & buy a sword, then look at the passage where God commends mirth, for man hath nothing better under the sun than to eat, drink, and be merry. If you look at just those two passages, you might logically conclude that by going out drinking & shooting you are doing the Lord's work. ...but that is obviously not the true message of the Bible. It would be a deception, based on cherry picking & misrepresentation. It would be blasphemy.

    Now, even if the good book is in the hands of a person with good intentions, the likely transnational imperfections are still an issue. This leaves me wanting to be cautious about how much faith I put into the printed material that I am told constitutes The Bible. I just don't believe that I have a fully legitimate version available to me.

    That leaves me observing the acts of my fellow man & trying to decipher things for myself, a skill that has been frowned upon in schools for quite a while now. At this time, I see the evil forces as being represented by those who were politely described by this country's founders as "ambitious men". Tyranny is the face of evil in this world today, as I see it. The ever increasing concentration of wealth & influence into a smaller number of hands has always been a formula for disaster throughout history, but today it's being perfected as an art form. Social media is actual social monitoring, a tool for determining just how far The People can be pushed before they rebel. It's also a tool for determining how well lies have taken root and are now believed to be truths. The internet is also a fantastic tool for distributing different information to different groups of people & farming division in society. many good hearted people still exist in this world, but they are prevented from obtaining power & influence through the cancel culture. The move in the direction of tyranny is accelerating. The art-form is being perfected.

    The coordinated world wide response to the pandemic was a showing of just how unified and ubiquitous the tyrannical forces have become. Even remote little island nations got on board & toed the line with the prescribed reactions. That entire event was an apparent dress rehearsal for something bigger. it was a test of who is on what side. The next big thing that comes along may well be a grand finale type of event. The will certainly exists in the ruling class. The ability to pull it off may be at hand.

    The most likely salvation that I see for the common man is the greed at the top causing infighting between the major players, during which, they loose sight of or loose interest in the unwashed masses. In that case, the meek may actually inherit the earth. Perhaps the holy spirit that resides within the lowly will bind the commoners together as the evil greed within the elites will cause them to destroy each other. perhaps that will be the final battle of good vs. evil? How much of what has been written is a metaphor? How much of that metaphor has been poorly translated? Many possibilities exist. My stated example is as a grain of sand on a beach of possible outcomes. I offer it as food for thought.
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    1 Corinthians 14:33
    For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

    2 Timothy chapter 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama358 View Post
    2 Timothy chapter 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    So very true...one of many scriptures that makes me wonder where people get the idea that the Law is done away with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nines&Twos View Post
    So very true...one of many scriptures that makes me wonder where people get the idea that the Law is done away with.
    Hey Nines,
    I think the rift is usually a misunderstanding between two folks that ultimately believe the same thing.

    When a born again christian says something like "But we are no longer under the Mosaic Law" so that does not apply to us. There usually is someone that might be offended and will quote
    2 Timothy 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    And the first person will then quote
    Colossians 2:16-17
    16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
    17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

    and then it usually heads to

    Galations 3:10-14
    10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
    11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
    12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
    13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
    14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

    At some point they both agree that all scripture is Holy and Profitable but the Born again Christian is not under the curse of the Law with regards to salvation but still should not murder, steal, lie,commit adultery, fornicate etc. and if we do we are forgiven under the blood of Christ and no animal sacrifice needed as in the Mosaic Law.

    I think what Paul was teaching is that Salvation is by Faith alone and not of works less any man should boast because at the time there were some trying to teach Faith+works (circumcision for example) for salvation and he was leveling the boom on them with a pretty Harsh rebuke.

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    I tend to think the rift is because some people cannot discern the difference between Law, statute and ordnance.

    Ohh well. HIS will be done.
    Isaiah 45 - I AM the Lord and there is none else

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    The Truth Project addresses all these issues and more in about two months of Wednesday nights on 12 DVDs. You have to watch it carefully as a fellowship group, The Word is a team sport as is this forum.

    IMHO the modern failing is scientism, the belief that all is figured out if only we had a bigger telescope.
    (University of Arizona is building it, we will soon have swell new colorized pictures of faraway blobs.)

    Kick God out of school, who is left to run it? And the Deceiver does a poor job, as planned.
    So we are left with nothing to worship except our own selves.

    Surely there will soon be another nifty war in the "Middle East" what else is new?

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